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  • SuperHoopNik
    CCG
    • Mar 2011
    • 6660

    #16
    Originally posted by TBLOCKRANGER
    Not one of those can pick up a ball from deep and boss a game and that's what you need to win a European/world cup
    In a few more years + experience....I can see Jack Wilshere doing what you have just said.
    "When you went to the corner and saw our fans celebrating the way they were you just wanted to be part of it" - Shaun Derry after we beat the scum 1-0

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    • klonk
      Silver Seat
      • May 2011
      • 2401

      #17
      Originally posted by SuperHoopNik
      Joe Hart, Kyle Walker, Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Bertrand, Adam Johnson, Jack Wilshere, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Danny Welbeck, Sturridge, Micah Richards, Nick Powell, Nathan Redmond...........This will be the real 'Golden Age'.........mark my words!
      yeah... i really like the sound of that.

      portugal are, imo, really comparable to england at the mo'... over-reliant on a handful of players, but the difference is, i don't see where their next generation comes from. we could learn a lot from germany where the good of national mannschaft always comes before individual teams - we shouldn't have so much of this 'cap-in-hand' begging from the national team for players to be available for international duty (imo, this is the real problem of all the cash that sloshes around the premier league).

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      • vanhoop
        CCG
        • Mar 2009
        • 9642

        #18
        Couldve give the Waps another hour and they wouldn't have scored,better side at pens.
        Ooh northern lads love gravy

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        • bushcelt1
          CCG
          • Sep 2009
          • 11070

          #19
          Originally posted by vanhoop
          Couldve give the Waps another hour and they wouldn't have scored,better side at pens.
          two posts and hart making a cple of class saves van kept england in the game. they were far better mate.
          PRIDE OF LONDON.

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          • paulmason
            Banned
            • Mar 2009
            • 7443

            #20
            Originally posted by bushcelt1
            hinders young british players getting game time. problem is if you stop the influx now then your left with a sithe lge.
            Who cares about British players, we should only care about English players as its an English league, just like the Germans did years ago and who now use their league to benefit the national team.
            Last edited by paulmason; 25-06-2012, 07:14 AM.

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            • dogge
              Apprentice
              • Jul 2009
              • 97

              #21
              Originally posted by klonk
              yeah... i really like the sound of that.

              portugal are, imo, really comparable to england at the mo'... over-reliant on a handful of players, but the difference is, i don't see where their next generation comes from
              Portugal have plenty of young talent on their way and also a squad for this euro with almost every player under 30. For England it's time for a new generation. Gerrard, lampard and terry are all finished at this level now.

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              • jmelanie
                Gold Seat
                • Aug 2011
                • 7525

                #22
                I disagree about Gerrard, I think he was by far our best player and I think in part it was due to his captaincy that we did as well as we did.

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                • MattyRangers
                  Slimmer of The Year
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 24914

                  #23
                  Originally posted by SuperHoopNik
                  ---------------Hart------------
                  ----Walker-Jones-Jagielka-Cole----
                  A.Johnson-Gerrard-Wilshere-Chamberlain
                  ----------Rooney-Welbeck------------

                  We play this squad at the World Cup and we'll go far...
                  Id do the same but with Cahill in for Jagielka.
                  You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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                  • Stanley
                    Guest
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 23693

                    #24
                    No winter break...too many games...PL/Sky at commercial odds with the FA...so many reasons why the national team are given no favours whatsoever, it's hardly a surprise. Stan Collymore was right last night when he said the England players looked totally dead on their feet.

                    Couple that with our inferior technical ability to simply RETAIN possession of a football and be able to accurately pass to a team-mate when under pressure (like the Germans, Croatians, Greeks, Spanish, Portugese, Italians, French can ALL do with ease) and it's obvious we'll always remain a 1/4 final team AT BEST.

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                    • winalotto
                      Gold Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 5524

                      #25
                      I love this after every quarter final defeat, we should have changed the way we teach kids after the World Cup 2002 , it will all be forgotten when the qualifiers start, and England get through to another tournament, go to South America, fail, then come home to another why are we no good at keeping the ball investigation....

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                      • Kimimar0
                        Bronze Seat
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 431

                        #26
                        So what is it? Foreigners are stealing game time or the players are too tired. Certainly cant have both. No player good enough for England should struggle to get playing time because there are some foreigners in the league.

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                        • Kimimar0
                          Bronze Seat
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 431

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Stanley76
                          No winter break...too many games...PL/Sky at commercial odds with the FA...so many reasons why the national team are given no favours whatsoever, it's hardly a surprise. Stan Collymore was right last night when he said the England players looked totally dead on their feet.

                          Couple that with our inferior technical ability to simply RETAIN possession of a football and be able to accurately pass to a team-mate when under pressure (like the Germans, Croatians, Greeks, Spanish, Portugese, Italians, French can ALL do with ease) and it's obvious we'll always remain a 1/4 final team AT BEST.
                          GREEKS??!? Or we could try and win more that 15% of our Penalties.

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                          • winalotto
                            Gold Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5524

                            #28
                            If you teach kids from ages 9 onwards in academy's that possession is king, to teach them in small sided games where you have to receive the ball under pressure and to work on both feet, you will produce better technical players for the future. This is starting to happen but not everywhere because we are still in a win at all cost bubble over here.

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                            • Stanley
                              Guest
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 23693

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Kimimar0
                              GREEKS??!?
                              Yes, Greeks. Even they are better at keeping hold of the ball than us.

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                              • winalotto
                                Gold Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 5524

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Stanley76
                                Yes, Greeks. Even they are better at keeping hold of the ball than us.
                                Yes they are, the only team we could match for ball retention is Ireland..

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