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  • DeepcutHoop
    Gold Seat
    • Dec 2009
    • 6965

    #61
    Originally posted by BUSHRANGER1982
    Good grief, you are joking, right?

    Have you read your own demeaning comments to others, and for nothing less than voicing an opinion which differs to yours?

    Whatever meaningful thing I have to say, won't ever, well, not in my lifetime anyway, be wasted on you.

    The irony of all this though, which seems to escape you, is that your take on free speech, is no different to Hitler's, or Stalin's, to take two ends of the political spectrum.

    Oh, the wink isn't because I fancy you, so don't get any ideas.
    Godwin's law already?

    Yes, the one's against homophobia are like Hitler.

    Free speech, doesn't just mean you can say what you like and not have it challenged. That would impinge on my right of free speech to tell you you're wrong. And then you can tell me why you disagree and point out flaws in my logic. It's called discussion.

    Debates would be pointless if people just stated their position and walked away from the podium.

    Free speech also stretches as far as it's negative impact on other's ability to live their lives like the rest of us. The views on homosexuals such as those from a few on here, are a major part of why some people have to hide their true selves from the public.

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    • silvercue
      Silver Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 4704

      #62
      It's the fatties that I really hate. Yes, I am fattist (seriosly). Sorry Matty if you are between sarnies and reading this.
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      • vblockranger
        • Mar 2009
        • 15218

        #63
        Originally posted by silvercue
        It's the fatties that I really hate. Yes, I am fattist (seriosly). Sorry Matty if you are between sarnies and reading this.

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        • gilly
          Apprentice
          • Dec 2009
          • 148

          #64
          Originally posted by BUSHRANGER1982
          Good grief, you are joking, right?

          Have you read your own demeaning comments to others, and for nothing less than voicing an opinion which differs to yours?

          Whatever meaningful thing I have to say, won't ever, well, not in my lifetime anyway, be wasted on you.

          The irony of all this though, which seems to escape you, is that your take on free speech, is no different to Hitler's, or Stalin's, to take two ends of the political spectrum.

          Oh, the wink isn't because I fancy you, so don't get any ideas.
          The issue isn't free speech though. You are not free to racially abuse a player at a football match, for example. Were you booing John Terry for being a racist, or do you uphold his freedom to express racist views?

          If any gay footballer does have the courage to come out then I hope the authorities will demonstrate the same zero tolerance to homophobic comments as to racist ones. Unfortunately if the comments on this board are anything to go by, there won't be many of us left in the ground.

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          • MattyRangers
            Slimmer of The Year
            • Jun 2011
            • 24914

            #65
            Originally posted by silvercue
            It's the fatties that I really hate. Yes, I am fattist (seriosly). Sorry Matty if you are between sarnies and reading this.
            If Jacamo running out of ###L Gilets wasnt bad enough, now I'm subject to such fat-a-phobic comments on my favourite forum :strive:
            You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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            • silvercue
              Silver Seat
              • Mar 2009
              • 4704

              #66
              Originally posted by MattyRangers
              If Jacamo running out of ###L Gilets wasnt bad enough, now I'm subject to such fat-a-phobic comments on my favourite forum :strive:
              I am what I am Matty. I just can't keep it in any longer!
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              • RochestR
                Apprentice
                • May 2009
                • 27

                #67
                Originally posted by QPRDave
                Rochestr Joey Barton is a legend in your eyes because he spouts something you like?
                Would rather he was a legend for making a huge impact on a game in an Rs shirt,
                instead of not being capable of delivering an accurate dead ball.
                We'd all rather he was in better form than he is at present and I don't follow his incoherent ramblings on Twitter. As I said at the beginning of my thread, I wasn't happy that he was joining us and haven't been at all convinced by many of his performances. But I applaud him for talking eloquently about an issue that no other straight footballer is willing to address, lest it harm their image...

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                • MattyRangers
                  Slimmer of The Year
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 24914

                  #68
                  Originally posted by silvercue
                  I am what I am Matty. I just can't keep it in any longer!
                  Sounds like my overhang
                  You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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                  • DeepcutHoop
                    Gold Seat
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 6965

                    #69
                    Originally posted by MattyRangers
                    If Jacamo running out of ###L Gilets wasnt bad enough, now I'm subject to such fat-a-phobic comments on my favourite forum :strive:
                    I'm trying to resist looking at Jacamo. Seems like giving up

                    Unfortunately it's inevitable......

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                    • MattyRangers
                      Slimmer of The Year
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 24914

                      #70
                      Originally posted by DeepcutHoop
                      I'm trying to resist looking at Jacamo. Seems like giving up

                      Unfortunately it's inevitable......
                      When it becomes a struggle to see your old chap without the aid of a mirror; the next stop is Jacamo I'm afraid me pal! Got to admit defeat sometime... Better than squeezing into a standard XL top and it looking like its a spray on.
                      You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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                      • stainrodisalegend
                        Platinum Seat
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 13624

                        #71
                        Originally posted by BUSHRANGER1982
                        Good grief, you are joking, right?

                        Have you read your own demeaning comments to others, and for nothing less than voicing an opinion which differs to yours?

                        Whatever meaningful thing I have to say, won't ever, well, not in my lifetime anyway, be wasted on you.

                        The irony of all this though, which seems to escape you, is that your take on free speech, is no different to Hitler's, or Stalin's, to take two ends of the political spectrum.

                        Oh, the wink isn't because I fancy you, so don't get any ideas.
                        God, my sides are splitting, that was so funny. So because I don't like homophobes I must be a "po*ve"/ "fagg*t"/ insert your favourite term of abuse. And if I was one you wouldn't be safe because you are just such a gorgeous human being I would want to jump into bed with you???? Good grief. I'm surprised you didn't offer that other hilarious bon mot "backs to the wall chaps!" For the record I'm married with two kids but if you think that's a smokescreen and I spend all my spare time with Graham Le Saux in the showers, I cdnt give a monkeys.

                        You are free to have whatever opinions you like. Your opinions, such as you are able to express them, are supremely uninteresting to me. But what Gilly and Deepcut and many others have tried to get through to your brain is this: what isn't acceptable is to insult people. Its not homosexuals that now have to stay in the closet, but homophobes - saying you hate someone just because of what they get up to with another consenting adult is no longer acceptable. Sorry about that. Its a shame that the law and the world in general has moved on and passed you by.

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                        • bushcelt1
                          CCG
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 11070

                          #72
                          david batty should have been gay ...for the laugh!!!
                          PRIDE OF LONDON.

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                          • BUSHRANGER1982
                            Gold Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5666

                            #73
                            Originally posted by DeepcutHoop
                            Godwin's law already?

                            Yes, the one's against homophobia are like Hitler.

                            Free speech, doesn't just mean you can say what you like and not have it challenged. That would impinge on my right of free speech to tell you you're wrong. And then you can tell me why you disagree and point out flaws in my logic. It's called discussion.

                            Debates would be pointless if people just stated their position and walked away from the podium.

                            Free speech also stretches as far as it's negative impact on other's ability to live their lives like the rest of us. The views on homosexuals such as those from a few on here, are a major part of why some people have to hide their true selves from the public.
                            Yes, you do seem to have a smidgen of a grasp, as to what my grandfather, and millions like him, fought and died for.
                            There was a slogan at the first general election after WW2, "I may not like what you say, but I will defend your right to say it."
                            As far as I'm aware, there was no list as to what was "acceptable", and what was not "acceptable," with regards to free speech.
                            The, "you can say what you like, as long as I like what I hear", is an altogether modern concept, as is most of what is warped about modernity.

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                            • vblockranger
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 15218

                              #74
                              Originally posted by stainrodisalegend
                              God, my sides are splitting, that was so funny. So because I don't like homophobes I must be a "po*ve"/ "fagg*t"/ insert your favourite term of abuse. And if I was one you wouldn't be safe because you are just such a gorgeous human being I would want to jump into bed with you???? Good grief. I'm surprised you didn't offer that other hilarious bon mot "backs to the wall chaps!" For the record I'm married with two kids but if you think that's a smokescreen and I spend all my spare time with Graham Le Saux in the showers, I cdnt give a monkeys.

                              You are free to have whatever opinions you like. Your opinions, such as you are able to express them, are supremely uninteresting to me. But what Gilly and Deepcut and many others have tried to get through to your brain is this: what isn't acceptable is to insult people. Its not homosexuals that now have to stay in the closet, but homophobes - saying you hate someone just because of what they get up to with another consenting adult is no longer acceptable. Sorry about that. Its a shame that the law and the world in general has moved on and passed you by.
                              lol being a homophobe is not illegal discrimination against people who are gay/black/jewish/old/fat/smelly/thick/thin/foreign/white/yellow/crippled/mental
                              is tho

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                              • stainrodisalegend
                                Platinum Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 13624

                                #75
                                Originally posted by BUSHRANGER1982
                                Yes, you do seem to have a smidgen of a grasp, as to what my grandfather, and millions like him, fought and died for.
                                There was a slogan at the first general election after WW2, "I may not like what you say, but I will defend your right to say it."
                                As far as I'm aware, there was no list as to what was "acceptable", and what was not "acceptable," with regards to free speech.
                                The, "you can say what you like, as long as I like what I hear", is an altogether modern concept, as is most of what is warped about modernity.
                                bet you think hitler was right on "po*ves" tho? (seeing as you brought him into the argument).

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