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  • Mattyqpr
    Silver Seat
    • Jul 2009
    • 3576

    #16
    Originally posted by QPRDave
    Can you Guarantee survival under a new manager?
    Agree with dave no point giving him money to sign players and then tell someone else to get on with it.
    Do the posters who want him out, think that those that don't, want us to get relegated?
    Exactly Dave, some seem to forget we were a complete shambles when we changed managers every month under Flav!

    I'm a big Warnock fan but the form is very worrying now, our next 3 home games have to return maximum points.

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    • rangerforevereastcote
      Silver Seat
      • Apr 2011
      • 4144

      #17
      Originally posted by BennyBoyRs
      You seem quite relentless in your quest to seek a new manager, so I guess it's not worth adding to the arguement.
      This isn't about my opinion am merely curious what point others question, I kinda lost faith with him totally when we played Norwich, am sure you know we were more likely after equalizing to win, lambert made a great substitution and won the game for them with it, all this whilst warnock didn't have any response in tactis or substitutions
      I always respect your comments mate so please feel free

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      • paulmason
        Banned
        • Mar 2009
        • 7443

        #18
        Originally posted by QPRDave
        Can you Guarantee survival under a new manager?
        Agree with dave no point giving him money to sign players and then tell someone else to get on with it.
        Do the posters who want him out, think that those that don't, want us to get relegated?
        No you can't, but Sunderland would have been relegated if they stuck with Bruce.

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        • Bigdave
          Gold Seat
          • Apr 2009
          • 5109

          #19
          Originally posted by paulmason
          So your vote would be to keep him, even if that meant us getting relegated ?
          No my point was that as it looks like Warno is being given funds to reinforce the squad that surely the owners have faith in him.
          Do you honestly think TF and Amit would hand over a large sum of dough to Warnock if they wernt entirely convinced he could move us up the table/

          My guess would be no.

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          • BennyBoyRs
            I like 'Lone' time
            • Mar 2009
            • 13695

            #20
            To be honest mate, your mind is made up. You clearly feel he needs to go, and I don't. Without the over reaction from Mason in regards to being happy to see us relegated, I don't see many better managing options available. I don't rate Hughes either. I don't see how he offers much in superiority over Warnock. I think Neil has just as good a chance of keeping us up as Hughes would. On top of that, if the disaster of delegation was to happen, we've got the best man here to get us back up.

            I admit his substitutions haven't been great. In fact, they've been poor, but it's not like we're blessed with attacking options from the bench. Hopefully that'll change in this window.
            Your mum would love me...

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            • paulmason
              Banned
              • Mar 2009
              • 7443

              #21
              As i said earlier, IMO, its only a matter of time until NW looses the changing room and then his job. Ric has been banging on for weeks about things not bing good and now Ian Wright said the same, so we will see.

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              • Bigdave
                Gold Seat
                • Apr 2009
                • 5109

                #22
                Originally posted by BennyBoyRs
                To be honest mate, your mind is made up. You clearly feel he needs to go, and I don't. Without the over reaction from Mason in regards to being happy to see us relegated, I don't see many better managing options available. I don't rate Hughes either. I don't see how he offers much in superiority over Warnock. I think Neil has just as good a chance of keeping us up as Hughes would. On top of that, if the disaster of delegation was to happen, we've got the best man here to get us back up.

                I admit his substitutions haven't been great. In fact, they've been poor, but it's not like we're blessed with attacking options from the bench. Hopefully that'll change in this window.
                Agree with all of that

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                • Mattyqpr
                  Silver Seat
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 3576

                  #23
                  Originally posted by rangerforevereastcote
                  This isn't about my opinion am merely curious what point others question, I kinda lost faith with him totally when we played Norwich, am sure you know we were more likely after equalizing to win, lambert made a great substitution and won the game for them with it, all this whilst warnock didn't have any response in tactis or substitutions
                  I always respect your comments mate so please feel free
                  Are you for real?

                  Let me remind you about the Norwich game!

                  Bothroyd on for Hill, thats a striker for a defender.

                  Buzsaky on for Derry, thats an attacking midfielder for a defensive midfielder.

                  Smith on for SWP, winger for a winger.

                  Players left on the bench, Elvis, Orr, Hall and Puncheon. How could Warnock have been more attacking with his subs?

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                  • rangerforevereastcote
                    Silver Seat
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 4144

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Mattyqpr
                    Exactly, he's boring!
                    Matty the question I ask is perfectly legitimate am not trying tonstart another warnock Out thread am trying to work out what the thoughts of those on this board and what their cut off point is
                    All due respect you post the above comment after answering my op , which for the record was diff to what expected as had you down as a support regardless type based on your previous posts , so to criticise my thread Is a tad hypercritical

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                    • middlesexr
                      Apprentice
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 63

                      #25
                      Does anyone remember when Neil Warnock was at Sheff Utd and had a few quid to spend, his signings were absolutely shocking. He spent fortunes on average players at best, Im just a bit worried and hope he doesn't waste the money he has available this January window.

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                      • paulmason
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 7443

                        #26
                        Originally posted by rangerforevereastcote
                        Matty the question I ask is perfectly legitimate am not trying tonstart another warnock Out thread am trying to work out what the thoughts of those on this board and what their cut off point is
                        All due respect you post the above comment after answering my op , which for the record was diff to what expected as had you down as a support regardless type based on your previous posts , so to criticise my thread Is a tad hypercritical
                        Told you, people want him to stay even if that means we get relegated.

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                        • rangerforevereastcote
                          Silver Seat
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 4144

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Mattyqpr
                          Are you for real?

                          Let me remind you about the Norwich game!

                          Bothroyd on for Hill, thats a striker for a defender.

                          Buzsaky on for Derry, thats an attacking midfielder for a defensive midfielder.

                          Smith on for SWP, winger for a winger.

                          Players left on the bench, Elvis, Orr, Hall and Puncheon. How could Warnock have been more attacking with his subs?
                          That game was turned by hoolahan , they were being overrun and lambert bought him on when they were under cosh and he ran the game from
                          That point on , my point being we had no answer , hen was the last tome we made a game changing sub exc Miller vs leicester

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                          • Mattyqpr
                            Silver Seat
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 3576

                            #28
                            Originally posted by rangerforevereastcote
                            Matty the question I ask is perfectly legitimate am not trying tonstart another warnock Out thread am trying to work out what the thoughts of those on this board and what their cut off point is
                            All due respect you post the above comment after answering my op , which for the record was diff to what expected as had you down as a support regardless type based on your previous posts , so to criticise my thread Is a tad hypercritical
                            Of course i'm not a "support regardless type".

                            The thing is who will come in and do a better job? Also i think the big thing people are missing out on, we're not actually playing bad! Yes, results haven't been great but i'm convinced we'll stay up, comfortably too.

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                            • Bigdave
                              Gold Seat
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 5109

                              #29
                              Originally posted by paulmason
                              Told you, people want him to stay even if that means we get relegated.
                              No Paul people remember the laughing stock and shambles we became when T&C hired and fired for fun. Warnock deserves a bit of time as it stands, christ its not as if we are adrift at the bottom.

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                              • Mattyqpr
                                Silver Seat
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 3576

                                #30
                                Originally posted by rangerforevereastcote
                                That game was turned by hoolahan , they were being overrun and lambert bought him on when they were under cosh and he ran the game from
                                That point on , my point being we had no answer , hen was the last tome we made a game changing sub exc Miller vs leicester
                                We had no answer because of our strength in depth, not Warnocks tactics or subs! We deserved something out of the Norwich game.

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