Man city look a different team in europe

[rangerforevereastcote]

Maybe we should play the champions league anthem before thy come out at lr

[qpr]

Aha, agreed

[silvercue]

not watching, not got Sky...might do some bet in play that they win now. odds should be ok.

[silvercue]

oh...odds are still guff

[rangerforevereastcote]

not watching, not got Sky...might do some bet in play that they win now. odds should be ok.

Not sure I'd waste the money, just took Johnston off for Barry still in first half!!!!

[rangerforevereastcote]

Not sure I'd waste the money, just took Johnston off for Barry still in first half!!!!

Wot the fk do I know

[Olly]

Maybe we should play the champions league anthem before thy come out at lr

The ball they're playing with is the world cup jabulani one. Yes it goes faster, but the bounce is more outrageous (even tho it's raining there) and is more difficult to control. This is the ball they've been using for the euro qualifiers, and england have had trouble with it too.

[MattyRangers]

The ball they're playing with is the world cup jabulani one. Yes it goes faster, but the bounce is more outrageous (even tho it's raining there) and is more difficult to control. This is the ball they've been using for the euro qualifiers, and england have had trouble with it too.

Tbf I cant stand players using a ball as an excuse. Its a friggin ball for christs sake! Thats like me moaning about a lack of output to my boss as I've got a new infra-red cordless mouse that Im not used to.

Poor excuse.

[silvercue]

Tbf I cant stand players using a ball as an excuse. Its a friggin ball for christs sake! Thats like me moaning about a lack of output to my boss as I've got a new infra-red cordless mouse that Im not used to.

Poor excuse.

Sorry Matty - but if they are using a Jubalani - then it isn't just a ball. Nearly every nation (maybe apart from Germany) complained about the ball at the World Cup. Years of learning to craft a pass and curve and curl a ball were worthless as this behaves like an elastic balloon.

It is an experimental ball that behaves totally differently to a normal football (there was even a documentary explaining why). Even people in UEFA and FIFA criticised it, but the deal was done.

I thought it was only for the World Cup though.....

In fact - when I swapped from a normal mouse to an infra-red one in my Quake 3 days it made a huge differnce to my uber skills...so your analogy is actually a multi-layered beauty.

[MattyRangers]

Sorry Matty - but if they are using a Jubalani - then it isn't just a ball. Nearly every nation (maybe apart from Germany) complained about the ball at the World Cup. Years of learning to craft a pass and curve and curl a ball were worthless as this behaves like an elastic balloon.

It is an experimental ball that behaves totally differently to a normal football (there was even a documentary explaining why). Even people in UEFA and FIFA criticised it, but the deal was done.

I thought it was only for the World Cup though.....

In fact - when I swapped from a normal mouse to an infra-red one in my Quake 3 days it made a huge differnce to my uber skills...so your analogy is actually a multi-layered beauty.

Fair enough mate didnt realise was such a kerfuffle over it... still think it is quite poor excuse though, especially when everybody on the pitch is facing the same challenge seeing as La Liga dont use that ball for their league games either do they?

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[Olly]

Thanks silvercue for confirming, I was beginning to think I was going mad Someone in FIFA sanctioned that ball, and has now got a healthier bank account you could think. 40,000,000 balls a year.

Matty, this type of ball was being used in the euro qualifiers. It destroys game play, makes the games boring. Bad teams are not affected. Good ones are. In a nutshell, it bounces higher, once it's more than knee high, it's more time wasting to control it, it goes faster, skids off the pitch very fast. It has affected tactical play.

This season's Eufa cup and Champions league are using the ball, and next year's Euro 2012 will be using an even faster one (more speed, more bounce). And you won't even get a chance to see it in action before the competition starts. It will be another nightmare tournament.

You do not want to see this ball in the premier league, believe me. You can't play long lofted thru balls with it, it goes out of play too fast. and as players are using a different ball in their own leagues, they are not used to it and how it behaves.

So this time the ball is an excuse, but managers and players won't say so, because first re-actions from people like yourself (no slight intended) is to rubbish it as a pathetic excuse. Watch tonight's CL games, and the Eufa ones, but just take more note of the bounce and the speed. It's subtle, but it honestly wrecks game play. Let us know after the games what you think.


And what's even worse, people who should know better, don't. Commentators and ex player TV pundits are all falling into the same trap and blaming the teams and the players.

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