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  • Yousef
    Gold Seat
    • Jul 2009
    • 9553

    #1

    4-4-2

    Does anyone think we should now adopt 442 tactics after the failure of using Bothroyd as a lone striker? tbo I cannot slagg off Bothroyd because of the role given by Warnock, but I would very much like us to have him with DJ and having Fuarlin/Barton as defensive midfielders (Derry as sub) and SWP/Taarabt as wingers but give Taarabt a freedome to move with Troare coming forward when Taarabt in the middle when we are attacking. We still can use Smith as striker or winger and Helguson to replace either DJ or Bothroyd.
    Last edited by Yousef; 12-10-2011, 09:35 AM.
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  • DouDou_87
    Silver Seat
    • Dec 2010
    • 1834

    #2
    Think 4-4-2 is simply too rigid these days imo, England got brutally exposed playing it at last years world cup and very few teams can pull it off.

    Against Blackburn I would go 4-3-3, the back 5 pretty much picks itself then have Barton, Derry, Faurlin in the middle with SWP and DJ wide and Jay up top.

    Doubt we'll see it though as NW can't seem to bring himself to drop Adel for some reason.

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    • TheRuskinsNW6
      Apprentice
      • Feb 2011
      • 14

      #3
      Originally posted by Yousef
      Does anyone think we should now adopt 442 tactics after the failure of using Bothroyd as a lone striker? tbo I cannot slagg off Bothroyd because of the role given by Warnock, but I would very much like us to have him with DJ and having Fuarlin/Barton as defensive midfielders (Derry as sub) and SWP/Taarabt as wingers but give Taarabt a freedome to move with Troare coming forward when Taarabt in the middle when we are attacking. We still can use Smith as striker or winger and Helguson to replace either DJ or Bothroyd.
      I think that is a fair point. I've been saying that to my pals for some time...
      Given that LR is a short and narrow pitch, our current (4,3,3/ 4,5,1) formation does not suit the length or width. Our current system preferably works well, when playing on Long & Wide pitches. I think that NW should adopt a 4,4,2 (diamond_) to allow us to play though the middle. This would provide more control in the midfield area, playing a Short/direct passing game, and allowing the to full backs to go forward, creating that extra man if need be.

      What do you think?

      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      ............................................Kenny. ..............................................

      .................................................. ..................................................

      .....................Gabbidon/Hall........................Ferdinand............. ..........

      .................................................. .................................................

      ...Young.......................................... .....................................Toure...

      ............................................Derry. ................................................

      .................................................. ..................................................

      ................Barton............................ ...........Faurlin...........................

      .................................................. ..................................................

      ......................................Taarabt/SWP.............................................

      .................................................. ..................................................

      .......................DJ......................... ...........Bothoryd..........................

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      • MattyRangers
        Slimmer of The Year
        • Jun 2011
        • 24914

        #4
        Originally posted by TheRuskinsNW6
        I think that is a fair point. I've been saying that to my pals for some time...
        Given that LR is a short and narrow pitch, our current (4,3,3/ 4,5,1) formation does not suit the length or width. Our current system preferably works well, when playing on Long & Wide pitches. I think that NW should adopt a 4,4,2 (diamond_) to allow us to play though the middle. This would provide more control in the midfield area, playing a Short/direct passing game, and allowing the to full backs to go forward, creating that extra man if need be.

        What do you think?

        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

        ............................................Kenny. ..............................................

        .................................................. ..................................................

        .....................Gabbidon/Hall........................Ferdinand............. ..........

        .................................................. .................................................

        ...Young.......................................... .....................................Toure...

        ............................................Derry. ................................................

        .................................................. ..................................................

        ................Barton............................ ...........Faurlin...........................

        .................................................. ..................................................

        ......................................Taarabt/SWP.............................................

        .................................................. ..................................................

        .......................DJ......................... ...........Bothoryd..........................
        Agree but, personally, would have the midfield 4 as:

        Faurlin
        SWP Barton
        Adel
        You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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        • rangersroar
          Silver Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 1952

          #5
          For me Bothroyd has had his chance, it's time for the DJ to start. You don't need a big target man all the time, good movement off the ball, keep the passing simple and above all, keep possession. Anyone who watched Spain in the week will know what I mean. Now I know we are not Spain, but the mentality of football has got to change in this country.

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          • DouDou_87
            Silver Seat
            • Dec 2010
            • 1834

            #6
            Originally posted by rangersroar
            For me Bothroyd has had his chance, it's time for the DJ to start. You don't need a big target man all the time, good movement off the ball, keep the passing simple and above all, keep possession. Anyone who watched Spain in the week will know what I mean. Now I know we are not Spain, but the mentality of football has got to change in this country.
            Very true, but to drop JB would kill his confidence completely, then if it doesn't come off with DJ or HH we are in a bit of trouble.

            JB hasn't had anywhere near the sort of service most other Premier League strikers get, in my eyes we need Barton, Taarabt AND SWP to get closer to him and give him so decent service to work with.

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            • superhoop67
              Silver Seat
              • Mar 2009
              • 3782

              #7
              Originally posted by TheRuskinsNW6
              I think that is a fair point. I've been saying that to my pals for some time...
              Given that LR is a short and narrow pitch, our current (4,3,3/ 4,5,1) formation does not suit the length or width. Our current system preferably works well, when playing on Long & Wide pitches. I think that NW should adopt a 4,4,2 (diamond_) to allow us to play though the middle. This would provide more control in the midfield area, playing a Short/direct passing game, and allowing the to full backs to go forward, creating that extra man if need be.

              What do you think?

              >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

              ............................................Kenny. ..............................................

              .................................................. ..................................................

              .....................Gabbidon/Hall........................Ferdinand............. ..........

              .................................................. .................................................

              ...Young.......................................... .....................................Toure...

              ............................................Derry. ................................................

              .................................................. ..................................................

              ................Barton............................ ...........Faurlin...........................

              .................................................. ..................................................

              ......................................Taarabt/SWP.............................................

              .................................................. ..................................................

              .......................DJ......................... ...........Bothoryd..........................
              Adel up front instead of Bothroyd
              Football played the Charlie Ferris way

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              • DouDou_87
                Silver Seat
                • Dec 2010
                • 1834

                #8
                Adel goes missing enough as it is when playing in the midfield, would never see the lad if he played up front!

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                • rangersroar
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1952

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DouDou_87
                  Very true, but to drop JB would kill his confidence completely, then if it doesn't come off with DJ or HH we are in a bit of trouble.

                  JB hasn't had anywhere near the sort of service most other Premier League strikers get, in my eyes we need Barton, Taarabt AND SWP to get closer to him and give him so decent service to work with.
                  You can't not drop someone because you don't want to hurt their feelings. All players accept that if they are not performing they will be "rested". It's part of being in a squad. If we all lived our life saying "what if", then nothing would ever change.

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                  • Kimimar0
                    Bronze Seat
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 431

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DouDou_87
                    Think 4-4-2 is simply too rigid these days imo, England got brutally exposed playing it at last years world cup and very few teams can pull it off.

                    Against Blackburn I would go 4-3-3, the back 5 pretty much picks itself then have Barton, Derry, Faurlin in the middle with SWP and DJ wide and Jay up top.

                    Doubt we'll see it though as NW can't seem to bring himself to drop Adel for some reason.
                    Because he is our best player, miles better than SWP.

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                    • Chopper
                      Bronze Seat
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 835

                      #11
                      To drop Adel is a spectacular own goal.

                      He is my Lord and Saviour so you can shove your DJ or SWP up your you know what

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                      • DouDou_87
                        Silver Seat
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 1834

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kimimar0
                        Because he is our best player, miles better than SWP.
                        Yeah because Adel has proved himself at Premiership level for the best part of 10 seasons hasn't he?!

                        Don't get me wrong, on his day he is unplayable, it just seems that these days don't come quite as often as they did in the championship.
                        Last edited by DouDou_87; 12-10-2011, 08:39 PM.

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                        • DouDou_87
                          Silver Seat
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 1834

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rangersroar
                          You can't not drop someone because you don't want to hurt their feelings. All players accept that if they are not performing they will be "rested". It's part of being in a squad. If we all lived our life saying "what if", then nothing would ever change.
                          NW has even said it himself, JB hasn't been getting the service to get the goals, we don't actually look that great going forward, sort that out and the goals will come for JB.

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                          • QPR Richard
                            Gold Seat
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 6489

                            #14
                            My 11 would be:

                            Kenny

                            Young Gabbidon Ferdinand Traore

                            Faurlin Derry

                            SWP Barton Taarabt

                            DJ

                            This is when playing the bigger clubs, and when playing others, drop Derry for another striker and go 4-4-2. When we play 4-2-3-1 we look good going forward and defending we have a couple of defensive midfielders to protect the back four.
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                            • qprfan4ever
                              Bronze Seat
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 306

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TheRuskinsNW6
                              I think that is a fair point. I've been saying that to my pals for some time...
                              Given that LR is a short and narrow pitch, our current (4,3,3/ 4,5,1) formation does not suit the length or width. Our current system preferably works well, when playing on Long & Wide pitches. I think that NW should adopt a 4,4,2 (diamond_) to allow us to play though the middle. This would provide more control in the midfield area, playing a Short/direct passing game, and allowing the to full backs to go forward, creating that extra man if need be.

                              What do you think?

                              >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

                              ............................................Kenny. ..............................................

                              .................................................. ..................................................

                              .....................Gabbidon/Hall........................Ferdinand............. ..........

                              .................................................. .................................................

                              ...Young.......................................... .....................................Toure...

                              ............................................Derry. ................................................

                              .................................................. ..................................................

                              ................Barton............................ ...........Faurlin...........................

                              .................................................. ..................................................

                              ......................................Taarabt/SWP.............................................

                              .................................................. ..................................................

                              .......................DJ......................... ...........Bothoryd..........................
                              Didn't know we signed Toure? why he not started yet

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