Hypothetically speaking...

[paulmason]

True say.

I agree we should be looking for younger players and, if we were searching for who to buy, the 2 in question def wouldnt be on my personal shortlist, but simply in answer to the OP i was saying we shouldnt be turning our noses up at top qualtiy players

Just out of curiosity, within our clubs realistic budget, which CB and CM would you like to see us sign in Jan? Plus a forward as we all know we need 1!

I really don't think we need a striker, we just need to play the ones we have as strikers, where the midfielders are feeding them and not persist with the strikers feeding the midfielders.

Centre back, I would go for Gary Cahil and a Center midfielder, Ben Watson.

[MattyRangers]

I really don't think we need a striker, we just need to play the ones we have as strikers, where the midfielders are feeding them and not persist with the strikers feeding the midfielders.

Centre back, I would go for Gary Cahil and a Center midfielder, Ben Watson.

Fair point. I agree that Jay and Dj up top as a strike pairing could be leathal. Or even Buzz or Adel sitting just off DJ.

CB Cahill is top drawer but cant help but think if he were to go itd be to a top 6 side. Would love him though! Id say Bassong as CB and Tiote CM.

Like Watson though (was sh1te for us however!), playing really well for Wigan.

[Jeffro]

Derry does not go box to box like Chubby (I quite like him actually), chalk and cheese players but we need to be looking at younger players with a future ahead of them, not Chelsea Pensioners looking foe one last pay day.

Disagree.. We need to be looking at players that can make an impact NOW, not potential that may not come to fuition for 3/4 years then it will be too late.

We need experience and a couple of young players who are capable of performing.

In answer to the OP , course we'd have both even just to cement our premier league future.

[paulmason]

Disagree.. We need to be looking at players that can make an impact NOW, not potential that may not come to fuition for 3/4 years then it will be too late.

We need experience and a couple of young players who are capable of performing.

In answer to the OP , course we'd have both even just to cement our premier league future.

They are not for sale NOW, so they can not make an impact NOW and to say that someone like Gary Cahil would not be a better option than John Terry, at a fracrion of the wages (seeing as that is important to you now) speaks volumes, although I accept its horses for courses.

[Jeffro]

They are not for sale NOW, so they can not make an impact NOW and to say that someone like Gary Cahil would not be a better option than John Terry, at a fracrion of the wages (seeing as that is important to you now) speaks volumes, although I accept its horses for courses.

PAul it was a HYPOTHETICAL question.. DO you understand what that means??

My answer is that whether it be Terry Lampard Beckham or whoever we need experience NOW , not look for younger players who MIGHT make a difference.

[80sCasual]

Oh really fair enough then; bit up himself is he?

Definately, does not have the time for anyone and is extremely rude, everything he puts on is one big act. Not only my impression of him but many in and around the profession i worked in.

[Del]

If they were available and interesred then of course we would take them in a shot. They have been the life blood of one of the best sides around for recent years.... anyone saying they don't want them is talking from the heart not the head.

That said, i can't see them going anywhere after Chelsea. I think they will get extended year on year contracts for a couple of years then still milk the Chelsea / Abramovich gravy train by doing ambassador stuff with the club on match days etc.

[paulmason]

PAul it was a HYPOTHETICAL question.. DO you understand what that means??

My answer is that whether it be Terry Lampard Beckham or whoever we need experience NOW , not look for younger players who MIGHT make a difference.

Yes I know who hypotheitcal means and are you saying that a youngster like Gary Cahil is not experienced enough for QPR FC ?

[dave58]

You should always be looking to get better than what you have is Terry better than all the C.Bs we have? YES is Fat Frank better than Barton and Faurlin Tarrabt Questionable better than Derry? YES. but not as a holding player! you have to think about the type of player he is? would prefer Cahill to Terry?

[Del]

Yes I know who hypotheitcal means and are you saying that a youngster like Gary Cahil is not experienced enough for QPR FC ?

The point there is younger players with experience, especially the likes of Cahill who are English command ludicrously over inflated transfer fees. I mean they wanted £17m FFS and he's had a mare this season.

The players being mentioned are all at the end of their carees, so i think the theory is they may be available for free, or very cheap.

[paulmason]

You should always be looking to get better than what you have is Terry better than all the C.Bs we have? YES is Fat Frank better than Barton and Faurlin Tarrabt Questionable better than Derry? YES. but not as a holding player! you have to think about the type of player he is? would prefer Cahill to Terry?

Lampard is a great attacking midfield player, but (hypothetically) who would he replace, as you would need someone sitting in the middle (as they do at Chelsea) allowing him to go where he wants. I dont think many QPR fans would want Lampard if it meant Faurlin was sacrificed, as you would need a Derry type player holding.

[paulmason]

The point there is younger players with experience, especially the likes of Cahill who are English command ludicrously over inflated transfer fees. I mean they wanted £17m FFS and he's had a mare this season.

The players being mentioned are all at the end of their carees, so i think the theory is they may be available for free, or very cheap.

The transfer fee and age of Cahil means you would have a sell on valve in a year or three, so not that great an issue, but the £7,800,000 annual wages of Lampard, would be dead money.

[Del]

The transfer fee and age of Cahil means you would have a sell on valve in a year or three, so not that great an issue, but the £7,800,000 annual wages of Lampard, would be dead money.

Firstly, they wouldn't get wages even close to that at another team when they may have a year or 2 at best to offer, and are not the players they were when they signed those contracts.

Secondly, you seem to forget the fact that players such as Cahill, who could potentially go for £17m, would also command stupid wages, especially if a team wants them that badly to pay over the odds in the first place.

[Jeffro]

Yes I know who hypotheitcal means and are you saying that a youngster like Gary Cahil is not experienced enough for QPR FC ?

COurse he is but he would cost more to sign thn John Terry, and wouldnt sign for us as he is young and could play for Man utd, Chelsea etc , whereas Terry will be old and looking for a last payday.

[rangerforevereastcote]

They are not for sale NOW, so they can not make an impact NOW and to say that someone like Gary Cahil would not be a better option than John Terry, at a fracrion of the wages (seeing as that is important to you now) speaks volumes, although I accept its horses for courses.

bolton turned down over 10 mill for him , we aint getting him