Good article about our spending + why we could be in trouble.....

[qprjames]

he Premier League is an unforgiving arena for newly promoted clubs, but with the campaign still three weeks away fans should be able to look forward with optimism as well as trepidation. That is certainly the mood around Carrow Road and the Liberty Stadium. Norwich City and Swansea City will be among the favourites for relegation, but both have promising managers who are strengthening their teams

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/partys-over-for-qpr-as-ecclestone-keeps-it-tight-2318963.html

This bit interested me..........

Spending to survive

How promoted clubs have fared:

2010-11


Blackpool (spent £2.5m, relegated)

Newcastle United (£3m, survived)

West Bromwich (£5.3m, survived)

2009-10

Wolves (spent £16.5m, survived)

Birmingham City (£17.6m, survived)

Burnley (£6.6m, relegated)


How much have we/do we look like spending-zilt.....
As I've said before being realistic....if we stay up it will be a miracle!

[Hoops]

Sorry James...this link was posted on Saturday morning mate!

[SteveQPR1975]

Just another dig at QPR yawnzz

[qprted]

well

well all this newspaper talk is all very well,but they forget the great brian clough,he proved thats its all about management,and we have in our club the even greater neil warnock

warnock dosnt have to spend big money,he can drop down to the lower divisions and find brilliant players,like scottish international mackie a player who was purchased for peanuts

only a bad manager has to spend a fortune on players,when our russian billionaire comes into qpr,we will have a combined total of 36 billion pound
up against chelseas 8 billion then we can spend for fun,and start winning the prem on a permenant basis

[markarnold]

Righty oh Ted!!

[Stanley]

Someone should email that to T&C.

[sirpiechucker]

I think the spending money and survival malarky is a myth. It helps of course. But Burnley spent more than WBA and Newcastle did the following season and were still relegated. WHU had a squad full of Premiership players as opposed to Championship players making the step up. They also had England internationals but still got relegated.

Football and survival is not just about spending money but about luck, it's about consistency, unity and continuity. We could go about and spend millions more than the likes of Wigan, Wolves etc but it doesn't mean a thing if those players get injured, if they lose form and if they are the wrong players for the system you are trying to play.

[stainrodisalegend]

I think the spending money and survival malarky is a myth. It helps of course. But Burnley spent more than WBA and Newcastle did the following season and were still relegated. WHU had a squad full of Premiership players as opposed to Championship players making the step up. They also had England internationals but still got relegated.

Football and survival is not just about spending money but about luck, it's about consistency, unity and continuity. We could go about and spend millions more than the likes of Wigan, Wolves etc but it doesn't mean a thing if those players get injured, if they lose form and if they are the wrong players for the system you are trying to play.

Spending money is not a sufficient conditional for staying up, but it is a necessary one. If QPR were to stay up they would smash all records for surving in the Premier League having spent the lowest amount of money.

[PutneyHoop]

I think the spending money and survival malarky is a myth. It helps of course. But Burnley spent more than WBA and Newcastle did the following season and were still relegated. WHU had a squad full of Premiership players as opposed to Championship players making the step up. They also had England internationals but still got relegated.

Football and survival is not just about spending money but about luck, it's about consistency, unity and continuity. We could go about and spend millions more than the likes of Wigan, Wolves etc but it doesn't mean a thing if those players get injured, if they lose form and if they are the wrong players for the system you are trying to play.

Burnley were doing just fine until Bolton turned up and stole Coyle.. They then dug their own grave with the appointment of Brian Laws who had just been released from Wednesday for setting up their relagation season. Laws effectively relagated two clubs in one season!!

[Lunar Jetman]

I think I'd rather see who they signed rather than how much they spent. This would give a better indication on whether they were equipped for the Premiership or not....

You could spend £20 million on a load of old crap that gets you relegated or £5 million on some real nuggets that keep you up.

[sirpiechucker]

I think I'd rather see who they signed rather than how much they spent. This would give a better indication on whether they were equipped for the Premiership or not....

You could spend £20 million on a load of old crap that gets you relegated or £5 million on some real nuggets that keep you up.

Agreed. The cost of a player often depends on the length of the contract they have with their current club and their age. Charlie Adam had a year left on his contract and went for £9m whereas Carroll had years left on his and went for £35m. Arguably they had very similar impacts on the Championship and on the Premiership.

Not a lot of difference in terms of quality between Bothroyd and Graham but because one was in contract and the other wasn't the difference to sign them was £3.5m.

[stainrodisalegend]

I think I'd rather see who they signed rather than how much they spent. This would give a better indication on whether they were equipped for the Premiership or not....

You could spend £20 million on a load of old crap that gets you relegated or £5 million on some real nuggets that keep you up.

Agree, but the key word/ figure in your quote is £5m. We look to be spending way, way less than that in transfers (albeit not in wages). You can stay up on a small amount but not on virtually nothing!

[waterbuffalo]

he Premier League is an unforgiving arena for newly promoted clubs, but with the campaign still three weeks away fans should be able to look forward with optimism as well as trepidation. That is certainly the mood around Carrow Road and the Liberty Stadium. Norwich City and Swansea City will be among the favourites for relegation, but both have promising managers who are strengthening their teams

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/partys-over-for-qpr-as-ecclestone-keeps-it-tight-2318963.html

This bit interested me..........

Spending to survive

How promoted clubs have fared:

2010-11


Blackpool (spent £2.5m, relegated)

Newcastle United (£3m, survived)

West Bromwich (£5.3m, survived)

2009-10

Wolves (spent £16.5m, survived)

Birmingham City (£17.6m, survived)

Burnley (£6.6m, relegated)


How much have we/do we look like spending-zilt.....
As I've said before being realistic....if we stay up it will be a miracle!

my god, it took a genius like you to set me straight, what would I have done without your infinite wisdom?

[stanistheman]

Newcastle didn't need to spend as most of their squad had plenty of Premiership and even international experience i.e. Harper, Taylor, Enrique, Collocini, Barton Nolan, Guitirerez and I have probably missed out a few more.

I agree it is not all about how much a team spends, but quite simply, Warnock can only do so much with a very limited squad.

None of the forwards has a pedigree of scoring goals.
Helguson misses many sitters at Championship level
Agyemang is an awful finisher and often struggles to control the ball.
Bothroyd did little of note in his previous Premiership spell and isn't exactly a great goalscorer.
Smith (did he score for Portsmouth in the Premiership?)

Teams that struggle for goals in the Premiership nearly always get relegated, unless they have a great defence (QPR don't).

[PedalR]

You must also factor-in the pre-existing financial health of said clubs. A promoted team with little debt can obviously get away with spending more than a promoted team with a big deficit that needs to be addressed before any signings are made.