Relagation is a certainty now

[Rebel R's]

UNLESS Tango and Cash sell up but how likely is that.NW has now come out twice in the past few days and said he has no say in the Taarabt sale and wont be given any money to spend when he is sold.The whole debate about whether he is being backed or not by the board has ended,because only a complete fool would say he was and even Neil can not be expected to keep a team without our best player by a mile,and Routledge and Walker who we had for half a season last year up in the premiership.We all know now why pete jumped ship,even he shouldnt put a positive spin on things anymore and the few ''positive'' posters left are left grasping at straws with threads like ''but we are in the premier league'' and ''we were the best team last year in the championship''(but annoyingly refusing to mention 3 of those players wont be playing for us next season),and ''we have signed 2 ''England'' internationals''(but again refusing to mention Jay played only once and that was a friendly and dyer was years ago before all his injuries) and ''FFS its only july,be patient''.....the most annoying of positive threads.Simple fact of the matter is unless investment is made in the team we WILL be relagated,its a certainty,and T+C wont invest as they are too mean and dont give a flying **** about the team,so its a take over or certain relagation.

[Tarbie]

The build up to the season has been far from ideal, everyone who follows the club is surprised and disappointed by the lack of investment and transfer activity. However to say that relegation is a certainty is ridiculous.

We are not the only side who has failed to invest this summer. Look around the Premiership and there are plenty of sides that are going into this season with a weaker squad than last season. Admittedly it is a much tougher task for a side from the Championship to make the move up and survive but it is way to early to throw in the towel.

We have a manager with fire in his belly and the determination to suceed. Let's just hope that there are few more new signings or loans in the next couple of weeks to give us a fighting chance!

[maddix]

UNLESS Tango and Cash sell up but how likely is that.NW has now come out twice in the past few days and said he has no say in the Taarabt sale and wont be given any money to spend when he is sold.The whole debate about whether he is being backed or not by the board has ended,because only a complete fool would say he was and even Neil can not be expected to keep a team without our best player by a mile,and Routledge and Walker who we had for half a season last year up in the premiership.We all know now why pete jumped ship,even he shouldnt put a positive spin on things anymore and the few ''positive'' posters left are left grasping at straws with threads like ''but we are in the premier league'' and ''we were the best team last year in the championship''(but annoyingly refusing to mention 3 of those players wont be playing for us next season),and ''we have signed 2 ''England'' internationals''(but again refusing to mention Jay played only once and that was a friendly and dyer was years ago before all his injuries) and ''FFS its only july,be patient''.....the most annoying of positive threads.Simple fact of the matter is unless investment is made in the team we WILL be relagated,its a certainty,and T+C wont invest as they are too mean and dont give a flying **** about the team,so its a take over or certain relagation.

Go and kick the cat !!!

None of us can change the above... but at least whacking your size nines up a moggys jacksy will get rid of some of that tension !!!

[rodman]

UNLESS Tango and Cash sell up but how likely is that.NW has now come out twice in the past few days and said he has no say in the Taarabt sale and wont be given any money to spend when he is sold.The whole debate about whether he is being backed or not by the board has ended,because only a complete fool would say he was and even Neil can not be expected to keep a team without our best player by a mile,and Routledge and Walker who we had for half a season last year up in the premiership.We all know now why pete jumped ship,even he shouldnt put a positive spin on things anymore and the few ''positive'' posters left are left grasping at straws with threads like ''but we are in the premier league'' and ''we were the best team last year in the championship''(but annoyingly refusing to mention 3 of those players wont be playing for us next season),and ''we have signed 2 ''England'' internationals''(but again refusing to mention Jay played only once and that was a friendly and dyer was years ago before all his injuries) and ''FFS its only july,be patient''.....the most annoying of positive threads.Simple fact of the matter is unless investment is made in the team we WILL be relagated,its a certainty,and T+C wont invest as they are too mean and dont give a flying **** about the team,so its a take over or certain relagation.

Hmmm. Hard to disagree with anything here.
Apart from - relegation being a certainty.
The fat bird ain't singing yet but she has collected her music sheets and is warming up her voice doing scales as we speak.

[paulmason]

The build up to the season has been far from ideal, everyone who follows the club is surprised and disappointed by the lack of investment and transfer activity. However to say that relegation is a certainty is ridiculous.

We are not the only side who has failed to invest this summer. Look around the Premiership and there are plenty of sides that are going into this season with a weaker squad than last season. Admittedly it is a much tougher task for a side from the Championship to make the move up and survive but it is way to early to throw in the towel.

We have a manager with fire in his belly and the determination to suceed. Let's just hope that there are few more new signings or loans in the next couple of weeks to give us a fighting chance!

I just watched the video of Warnok after last nights game and I could not detect any fire in his belly at all.

[sirpiechucker]

NW has been used good and proper. They've put manager after manager in and got nowhere and the first manager who not only wins them promotion (which is supposedly what they wanted) but increases the value of the club ten fold gets nought. I'm happy with the two signings we've made but we need depth and that little bit of extra creativity and sparkle that AT gave us that will no longer be there. NW should be supported and rewarded and instead it looks like he is well and truly being shafted.

[SpankwiR]

Anyone who has declared QPR relegated before a ball has been kicked ISNT a QPR fan. Whatever has happened or is happening behind the scenes I will never write my football club and support them to the fullest. I suggest you toddle off and support Man Utd or Chelsea if you don't like losing matches.

[Rebel R's]

im not suggesting for a minute that NW wont have his players fired up for the new season or that he wont give it his best and im aware some other premiership teams havnt spent yet but it is my opinion that unless NW is backed by the board we will be relagated,hope im wrong but dont think i will be

[QPR1234]

time to prove people wrong... again..

admitted this is another league.. its a game of football.. blackpool and hull both had amazing starts with limited teams. we have a limited team but a manager and core who will never say die.

[coneysboots]

Anyone who has declared QPR relegated before a ball has been kicked ISNT a QPR fan. Whatever has happened or is happening behind the scenes I will never write my football club and support them to the fullest. I suggest you toddle off and support Man Utd or Chelsea if you don't like losing matches.

[SpankwiR]

I happen think that Niel Warnock could keep us in the Premiership with the current squad and if he did would deserve to be manager of the year (of all time). There is a strong possibility that if we dont improve the squad we will go down but I wouldnt dream of thinking its a certainty and the fact you do means you should hang your head in shame sir

[WeAreQPR12]

Anyone who has declared QPR relegated before a ball has been kicked ISNT a QPR fan. Whatever has happened or is happening behind the scenes I will never write my football club and support them to the fullest. I suggest you toddle off and support Man Utd or Chelsea if you don't like losing matches.

Love your positive vibe but do you really believe this current squad minus adel and WR who were r star players along with Kenny will be good enough to stay up against better opposition than last year?

This is nothing to do with loyalty

[ollyhoops]

I hate to agree but I think we will struggle big time now this coming season.

You have to consider that we are now playing in the best league in the World and we up against world star players and managers. Our squad simply isn't good enough and it lacks quality.

There is obviously something really wrong behind closed doors.

[Yousef]

The build up to the season has been far from ideal, everyone who follows the club is surprised and disappointed by the lack of investment and transfer activity. However to say that relegation is a certainty is ridiculous.

We are not the only side who has failed to invest this summer. Look around the Premiership and there are plenty of sides that are going into this season with a weaker squad than last season. Admittedly it is a much tougher task for a side from the Championship to make the move up and survive but it is way to early to throw in the towel.

We have a manager with fire in his belly and the determination to suceed. Let's just hope that there are few more new signings or loans in the next couple of weeks to give us a fighting chance!

Very sensible

[Yousef]

I just watched the video of Warnok after last nights game and I could not detect any fire in his belly at all.

He will be on fire from 13 August.