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  • West Acton
    CCG
    • Dec 2009
    • 21475

    #16
    Brighton is 100% not a Ikea flat pack ground.

    They have done an excellent job well done!!!

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    • themodfather
      Silver Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 4317

      #17
      every time this comes up..i wonder
      1) surely a qpr fan is an architect and could draft an image of a 3 rd tier, or say 2nd on ellerslie rd
      2) light is an issue but surely you'd use perspex see thru stuff mainly so light would pass thru
      3) cantilever design??

      the land near TA and football pitch on SAR to me, is dead land, there's the new ground and qpr install facilities such as gym/indoor 5 a side? for community to use, thereby appeasing locals and maybe council.
      loftus rd would have to be sold and if flats are built , some would have to be for socail housing to appease council.

      there'd be no car parking for sure....but where we are is served by 4 tubes, 1 overground and the westway...IDEAL.

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      • Bushboy92
        Apprentice
        • Apr 2011
        • 112

        #18
        I wouldnt mind keeping with 18,500 I just want more bloody space!! although I rarely sit anyway my knees cant handle it when i do, and would be nice if the pillars move.
        QPR's philosophy; perfer et obdura, dolor hic tibi proderit olim.

        (Be patient and tough, some day this pain will be useful to you)

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        • blueboy
          Bronze Seat
          • May 2011
          • 506

          #19
          Originally posted by themodfather
          every time this comes up..i wonder
          1) surely a qpr fan is an architect and could draft an image of a 3 rd tier, or say 2nd on ellerslie rd
          2) light is an issue but surely you'd use perspex see thru stuff mainly so light would pass thru
          3) cantilever design??

          the land near TA and football pitch on SAR to me, is dead land, there's the new ground and qpr install facilities such as gym/indoor 5 a side? for community to use, thereby appeasing locals and maybe council.
          loftus rd would have to be sold and if flats are built , some would have to be for socail housing to appease council.

          there'd be no car parking for sure....but where we are is served by 4 tubes, 1 overground and the westway...IDEAL.
          i'm not sure what you mean by using perspex?the stands themselves have to be concrete..thats what will block out the light
          asfcor a cantilever stand...what about access?say you put on another tier of say 3-5k,where do the extra people gain access?the current turnstiles are overcrowded as it is,as are the gangways
          even if it could be done,and expanding LR can't..it would make for a poor compromise,considering the logistical challenge,not cost effective
          you would still have the current problems of legroom(lack of)and restricted views

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          • themodfather
            Silver Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 4317

            #20
            some ground use perspex roofs/sides..allowing light
            supports don't have to be concrete, if use use steel and cantilever?
            i am not a designer/architect....if wrong, oops. cheers

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            • blueboy
              Bronze Seat
              • May 2011
              • 506

              #21
              Originally posted by themodfather
              some ground use perspex roofs/sides..allowing light
              supports don't have to be concrete, if use use steel and cantilever?
              i am not a designer/architect....if wrong, oops. cheers
              ok,in every modern staduim i have seen,the steppings are concrete,the perspsex roofs and sides are to allow light into stadium,with roofs used to allow light onto the pitch..this is possible coz there is nothing to stop the light going onto the pitch as the stand is angled away from the roof.The houses are behind the stand,where the angle of the stand and the roof meet...so,even with a perspex roof,the stand itself,made out of concrete,blocks out the sun.if that makes sense

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              • waterbuffalo
                Banned
                • Mar 2009
                • 3642

                #22
                Originally posted by Scarlet pimple
                This lot wont put their hands in their pockets for an extention or new stadium, would ruin there concept of a boutique stadium.
                I'm afraid I agree. In order for any renovation/increased capacity, we need brand new owners who can afford it. Our team can't even afford any players above 5 million. So it is unrealistic to expect major investment.

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                • blueboy
                  Bronze Seat
                  • May 2011
                  • 506

                  #23
                  Originally posted by waterbuffalo
                  I'm afraid I agree. In order for any renovation/increased capacity, we need brand new owners who can afford it. Our team can't even afford any players above 5 million. So it is unrealistic to expect major investment.
                  owners who can afford it?if we dont have them now,we never will
                  Brighton have just built a new ground,i wasnt under the impression they were owned by billionaires
                  there seems to be the idea that owners of clubs pay for a new stadium up front in full.This isnt always the case.

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                  • waterbuffalo
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3642

                    #24
                    yeah supposing Bernie is waiting for a russian or an arab or asian investor to come in with an offer for the club, he's not going to bother with expanding the stadium now is he? There is a huge "For Sale" sign at LR. Can't you see it?
                    And what's the big deal with Brighton? They did it, so we must do it?

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                    • Scarlet pimple
                      Gold Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 5006

                      #25
                      One of the brighton owners paid for the stadium out of his own pocket, think it was 93 million.

                      Now thats what you would call a dedicated owner of a football club, not like the idiots we have.
                      They seek him here.................

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                      • LoftusRoadLad
                        W12 Seat
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 19599

                        #26
                        I have lived in Loftus Road since a nipper in the fifties and in them days all the homes were open doors so i have been in nearly all the houses in Loftus and Ellerslie and the gardens are quite long in them big homes. Being in the building the trade the way i see it, the only way for QPR to expand is to buy out them houses. That is prob the cheapest option they have.
                        But having said that, they will have to weight up the value of QPR's land against purchasing cheaper alternative land.

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                        • scaz_QPR
                          Bronze Seat
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 631

                          #27
                          I've heard there changing Loftus Road Stadium to The Kingfisher Stadium soon

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                          • blueboy
                            Bronze Seat
                            • May 2011
                            • 506

                            #28
                            Originally posted by waterbuffalo
                            yeah supposing Bernie is waiting for a russian or an arab or asian investor to come in with an offer for the club, he's not going to bother with expanding the stadium now is he? There is a huge "For Sale" sign at LR. Can't you see it?
                            And what's the big deal with Brighton? They did it, so we must do it?

                            like i said,he doesnt have to spend any of his own money to get the stadium built,
                            the reason Brighton built a new stadium was they needed it,so they could move forward

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                            • waterbuffalo
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 3642

                              #29
                              Originally posted by blueboy
                              like i said,he doesnt have to spend any of his own money to get the stadium built,
                              the reason Brighton built a new stadium was they needed it,so they could move forward
                              Why would Bernie take a loan to upgrade/expand the stadium, when he is looking for a buyer? Like Tony Fernandez at West Ham?

                              I don't like Brighton. I only like Hove Albion.

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                              • Connell10
                                Silver Seat
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 3468

                                #30
                                i think us being in london is a problem , only one club aresnal have built a new stadium. there is lack of space in london and land is focking expensive. brighton had a lot more scope than any london club! if the likes of spurs and chelsea are finding it hard to buy land for a new stadium what chance have we got!
                                LONDON CALLING TO THE ZOMBIES OF DEATH.... ALSO KNOW AS BRENTFORD FANS

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