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  • rangerforevereastcote
    Silver Seat
    • Apr 2011
    • 4144

    #16
    yes and when we dont spend anymoney and we get relegated we lose th e"fans" who bought a ticket cos we were top and we go back to a 14k crowd in a 30k stadium which ends up being souless like half the grounds we have visited in th echampionship

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    • californiahoop
      Silver Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 4932

      #17
      Originally posted by 2touch
      Buy the BBC site. Build a hotel, offices, conference centre, flats etc... To make money from non matchday activities. Transport links are the due to Westfield, the face of the area has already changed due to this. You couldeven look at a casino possibly!

      Finding a spare £200m? Go to the bank! I know banks are not keen on lending to football clubs these days, but there would be a lot more to the plan than football so they would look at it.

      This would make us a viable long term proposition in terms of making a profit.

      A huge project, but why not? Football doesn't make profit anymore but this sort of deal does!
      I have been saying the same thing for years, Mittel is a parent like me, I would love to leave my children something like this, it will be worth a bundle in years to come, make the investment back ten fold.
      Kept the faith!

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      • qprjames
        Silver Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 4353

        #18
        Originally posted by swanleyhoop
        Can you even add teams like Donny and Colchester?
        The list is endless.

        Originally posted by rangerforevereastcote
        yes and when we dont spend anymoney and we get relegated we lose th e"fans" who bought a ticket cos we were top and we go back to a 14k crowd in a 30k stadium which ends up being souless like half the grounds we have visited in th echampionship
        What a negative approach, how about saying the better facilities will attract more people which in turn will provide a better fanbase for our club.

        Pretty much ALL clubs have seen big growths in their fanbase upon moving to a new ground.
        Now, Then, Forever
        [CENTER]QPR-Football League CHAMPIONS

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        • 2touch

          #19
          Originally posted by californiahoop
          I have been saying the same thing for years, Mittel is a parent like me, I would love to leave my children something like this, it will be worth a bundle on years to come, make the investment back ten fold.
          Precisely! We need our location to our advantage here as Arsenal have done in selling their old ground for expensive flats. Their borrowing will be clear in 5 years or so, they make a consistent profit and will be a force to be reckoned with in 10 years as Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool will have to face financial reality one day!

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          • californiahoop
            Silver Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 4932

            #20
            Originally posted by 2touch
            Precisely! We need our location to our advantage here as Arsenal have done in selling their old ground for expensive flats. Their borrowing will be clear in 5 years or so, they make a consistent profit and will be a force to be reckoned with in 10 years as Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool will have to face financial reality one day!
            Yep, the location is ideal, and if the BBC is available it's now or never, I would be surprise if an opportunity like this comes around again, it's a lot of land in the heart of London.
            Kept the faith!

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            • rangerforevereastcote
              Silver Seat
              • Apr 2011
              • 4144

              #21
              Originally posted by qprjames
              The list is endless.



              What a negative approach, how about saying the better facilities will attract more people which in turn will provide a better fanbase for our club.

              Pretty much ALL clubs have seen big growths in their fanbase upon moving to a new ground.
              yes your right seen big growth till things go wrong, im sure i dont need t tell you about all the half empty grounds we have visitied

              its all in the statement invest and make us a premier league club and we can sustain it, were not , talking about graham and cms will not keep us up, ref the negativity this board has been nothing but negative since about 3 days after our promotion, and for the record even though i think were going down and am disgusted with the price increases i still renewed this morning, cos after this lot gone the club will still be there and the 13-14k loyal fans will be aswel

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              • SteveQPR1975
                Silver Seat
                • Apr 2011
                • 2762

                #22
                The BBC would be ideal
                R's

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                • californiahoop
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 4932

                  #23
                  Originally posted by rangerforevereastcote
                  yes your right seen big growth till things go wrong, im sure i dont need t tell you about all the half empty grounds we have visitied

                  its all in the statement invest and make us a premier league club and we can sustain it, were not , talking about graham and cms will not keep us up, ref the negativity this board has been nothing but negative since about 3 days after our promotion, and for the record even though i think were going down and am disgusted with the price increases i still renewed this morning, cos after this lot gone the club will still be there and the 13-14k loyal fans will be aswel
                  Fulham had 3/4k loyal fans until they got promoted, Wigan the same, watch LR packed out now, even with the increase prices.
                  Kept the faith!

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                  • rangerforevereastcote
                    Silver Seat
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 4144

                    #24
                    Originally posted by californiahoop
                    Fulham had 3/4k loyal fans until they got promoted, Wigan the same, watch LR packed out now, even with the increase prices.
                    california i have no doubt the ground wll fill out now, if we survive 2 seasons in the prem then we can talkabout new stadium, my concearn is that unless we spend big to stay in the league we wont survive trying to do it on the cheap, my point is if we dont were back to the 14k again, look ive renewed cos i know whilst im protesting some other fkr takes my seat , its been embaressing this season when we were tp from start and still cldnt fill the stadium till end of season
                    as for fulham your right but they dont sell out often and can assure you if they ever fell out the league their fanbase would half fk me theyve not sold out may games apart frim the biggies this last few seasons hence their ned for a neutral part of ground
                    nothing would be better then a 30k stadium filled to the rafters every week holding own in the pl just cant see it after the last couple of weeks

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                    • SuperHoopNik
                      CCG
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 6660

                      #25
                      wouldn't mind if they moved to Harrow where the old kodak factory is. Would be great!
                      "When you went to the corner and saw our fans celebrating the way they were you just wanted to be part of it" - Shaun Derry after we beat the scum 1-0

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                      • rangerforevereastcote
                        Silver Seat
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 4144

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NikB
                        wouldn't mind if they moved to Harrow where the old kodak factory is. Would be great!
                        that would be great 15 mins there and back

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                        • qprjames
                          Silver Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 4353

                          #27
                          Thing is we can debate this all night, but the fact is, with Bernie owning the club it will never happen
                          Now, Then, Forever
                          [CENTER]QPR-Football League CHAMPIONS

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                          • bushcelt1
                            CCG
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 11070

                            #28
                            bottom line james
                            PRIDE OF LONDON.

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                            • blueboy
                              Bronze Seat
                              • May 2011
                              • 506

                              #29
                              i dont know where the figure of £200m came from,Brightons new ground cost £105m,with the land.i realise that London land prices are higher
                              s for playing in a half empty stadium,if we got relegated,you have to look at the likes of Charlton and Reading to see that the attendances don't always drop off drastically when relegation happens
                              30k might be a bit too high initially,so perhaps a 25k stadium with the ability to increase,like Reading and Brighton have done(both new stadiums have been built in such a way that they could be easily enlarged)
                              if you have a good working relationship with the local council then that helps
                              and what about the old dairy site(top of wood lane),that is still an option

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                              • Olly
                                Gold Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 6000

                                #30
                                Was just a guess, arsenal's was £262m for 60,000.

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