83 Points needed.......

[acricketer]

According to this

[PedalR]

That chart is flawed... it's not taking into account that teams have to play each other eg Swansea have to play Norwich so they y can't both take 24pts from last 8 games.

[The White City General]

That chart is flawed... it's not taking into account that teams have to play each other eg Swansea have to play Norwich so they y can't both take 24pts from last 8 games.

Surely the chart covers both scenarios, sure your not just being pedantic?

[Jeff]

Surely the chart covers both scenarios, sure your not just being pedantic?

agreed, the chart is a projection, and it shows the maximum possible points for each team.

[PedalR]

Jeez - it ain't hard to see.... chart's just adding 24pts to existing tallies and calling it the max possible. But it's clearly impossible for Norwich and Swansea BOTH to get another 24 pts

[The White City General]

Jeez - it ain't hard to see.... chart's just adding 24pts to existing tallies and calling it the max possible. But it's clearly impossible for Norwich and Swansea BOTH to get another 24 pts

I think you are struggling to get your head around the purpose of the chart.

[PedalR]

You're right... Palace for 4th......

[Sotonsuperhoop]

As it stands we need another 14 points to guarantee promotion which makes 90. We just need to watch Swansea's results. For every point they drop our goal is one point less. So if they lose to Norwich we will only need 11, etc

[Jeff]

Jeez - it ain't hard to see.... chart's just adding 24pts to existing tallies and calling it the max possible. But it's clearly impossible for Norwich and Swansea BOTH to get another 24 pts

of course it's impossible. just like it's impossible for the other 22 clubs to all get maximum points too. the value is there as a guideline as to what the teams, individually can achieve.

the important part of the table is on the right hand side, the Projected points total, which is what the OP was referring to.

[jackbauerQPR]

Dropping to 13th would be somewhat disappointing.

[Kevster269]

Dropping to 13th would be somewhat disappointing.

True!

But I've spent so many seasons hoping to get as high as 21st. It's been a good few years since 13th was disappointing!!

[PedalR]

As it stands we need another 14 points to guarantee promotion which makes 90. We just need to watch Swansea's results. For every point they drop our goal is one point less. So if they lose to Norwich we will only need 11, etc

You're right but factoring in scenarios for Norwich/Swansea game:

Norwich beat Swansea: That means Swans max wil be 87.
Swansea beat Norwich: That means Norwich max will be 88.
They draw: That means Swans max will be 88 and Norwich's 89.

So, today, mathematically we need 13 pts to guarantee promotion.

[stan_bowles]

Swansea have a hard run in,probably the hardest of the serious promotion contenders.And their away form is suspect so can't see them doing better than playoffs.

Would have picked Forest as automatics a month ago but they are struggling.

Fancy Norwich for auto's at the moment.

[Sotonsuperhoop]

You're right but factoring in scenarios for Norwich/Swansea game:

Norwich beat Swansea: That means Swans max wil be 87.
Swansea beat Norwich: That means Norwich max will be 88.
They draw: That means Swans max will be 88 and Norwich's 89.

So, today, mathematically we need 13 pts to guarantee promotion.

Yeah Okay!

[acricketer]

Projected form shows Cardiff finishing 7th!