The question has been asked, about letting Millwall fans out...

[qblockpete]

Shame that in 2010 people cannot go to a football match free of any worry about their safety.

I remember we played Millwall a few years ago on a Saturday and they were kept in after the game for 30 minutes. Don't know who it is a cost saving exercise for, but that should have happened again.

[acricketer]

The world is still full of cavemen.

[oldhoop]

It will be interesting to see if I get a reply from Mr Lawrence. I will, of course, post his response (if I get one!)

[Nederlandhoop]

In Nederland, the teams Ajax and Feyenoord meet away from the stadium and fight. But sometimes people die. This is not usually good.

[stanley75]

I'vce commented on this earlier but a few other thoughts I might add..

The 8 oclock kick off also put all sides under pressure to let them out pronto. Some last trains out of central London are quite a race to get to so people would legitmately start getting moody if locked in for half an hour or so. Had it been 7.45 k/o like most other games it would have given a bit more breathing space at the end and they could have been kept in the 15 without any extra inconvenience.

More generally, whist the evening fixture is great for me and I like the atmosphere, in safety/policing terms seems to me crazy idea. I've done it in reverse (sure many of us have and do) and it is part of the day for an evening away game to plot up early , start bevvying and wander the local pubs seeing what's about. In my experience it is always likely to go off at evening games. But (and contrary to Warnock's views on how it happened) I don't think it was an accident it was made an evening game. If it was an accident it was a freakish accident as it has happened again for the return fixture and we've also been given evening kick offs for the home and away games with Portsmouth (which will be another very lively fixture). That aint an accident or coincidence imo.

I think OB thought it was better in the evening.possibly as they could shut more of the Bush down without inconvenience to non-match goers. They also can allocate more manpower at night (on overtime of course!). IMO The Football League and OB want to look critically at this policy of evening games for troublesome games and Rangers ought to look hard at their lock in policy. And at the need for an 8 o'colock kick off at evening games, the lively ones anyway so as to accommodate the lock in.

[Stedders]

In Nederland, the teams Ajax and Feyenoord meet away from the stadium and fight. But sometimes people die. This is not usually good.

Ha, is it sometimes good then? ;) Well if they want to meet that is up to them and for the police to find out about, at least it keeps normal people with a brain less in the way of trouble.

I wrote to him as well, expressing not only concern about the obvious lack of common sense in not keeping certain away fans in after the game, but also disappointment about the flippant way he replied to the letter as posted earlier in this thread. At QPR we pay a relatively high ticket price, the least you can expect is for the safety policy to give fans the greatest chance possible of a safe day out.

[m_cooper]

perhaps we should put our own house in order 1st,we have our own thugs at qpr

[Stedders]

It's not about that, it is about safety of people in the stadium who are not thugs - and that is both sets of supporters' safety.