Just met Paulo Sousa

[qblockpete]

nice post, but doesn't get away from the fact he was too inexperienced and far too negative.

[PeterG]

capello
lippi
dalgliesh
souness
bekenbaur
zoff
rikjard
bobby robson
the list goes on and on

[PeterG]

"fact he was too inexperienced "

he was inexperienced at the interview, so who hired him and are they getting sacked or kept away from the decision making process for the next appointment?

[MKPaul]

His problem was ... GP

[THE FLYING COW]

his problem was he did not know what he was doing

his problem was he did not know what he was doing

[qblockpete]

Doubt it very much.

More, lets look at the table after Blackpool !!

"Come on lads, we are not going down, lets go for the wins"

nope

Come on lads, lets not get beat and lets try out a umbrella, diamond, salmon and necklace formation along the way.

Was the most negative football, I have seen for years. I guess thats the reason why supporters feel its not value for money anymore. Nothing else.

I've been watching QPR for years, and not since the defeat at Vauxhall Motors have I been so depressed watching Rangers.

[qblockpete]

peteg

I doubt Flavio will resign over appointing Paulo Sousa

[TheBlackMafia]

Doubt it very much.

More, lets look at the table after Blackpool !!

"Come on lads, we are not going down, lets go for the wins"

nope

Come on lads, lets not get beat and lets try out a umbrella, diamond, salmon and necklace formation along the way.

Was the most negative football, I have seen for years. I guess thats the reason why supporters feel its not value for money anymore. Nothing else.

I've been watching QPR for years, and not since the defeat at Vauxhall Motors have I been so depressed watching Rangers.

Stop talking nonsense man. You know you are being over critical and *****ic, so behave and keep stum.

[TheBlackMafia]

I.d.i.o.t.i.c gets blanked out! Now that is *****ic!

[MKPaul]

Doubt it very much.

More, lets look at the table after Blackpool !!

"Come on lads, we are not going down, lets go for the wins"

nope

Come on lads, lets not get beat and lets try out a umbrella, diamond, salmon and necklace formation along the way.

Was the most negative football, I have seen for years. I guess thats the reason why supporters feel its not value for money anymore. Nothing else.

I've been watching QPR for years, and not since the defeat at Vauxhall Motors have I been so depressed watching Rangers.

GP's campaign against Sousa worked can we not just give it up now. you have failed to get GP support against Sousa as mot of the sensible fans wanted him given longer but it dont really matter now as its history other than the bad taste it left in the mouth:(

[Stanley]

I for one am very pleased you did post this, W12. Thanks for that. It was very interesting to read this and just confirms much of what impressions I had of PS, that is to say a man of tremendous dignity and integrity, particularly demonstrated in the whole manner he handled his departure.

Agree 100% first sensible post for ages.

Cheers Kingo. Always nice to be appreciated occasionally

[Quaz]

his problem was he did not know what he was doing

don't talk wet.........

[ScottJones]

Lets not beat around the bush and deal in some facts (albeit allegedly ;) )

a)Sousa was recommended by many including Capello for the job.
b)When things are fine FB stays out of it
c)Once we started losing/playing rubbish due to Sousa tinkering way too much FB got involved

on (c) my personal opinion was that sousa's tinkering and subsequent dire form of 2009 is what cost us the play-offs

d) FB starts getting involved, demanding certain players are played and demands we play attacking football
e) Sousa, being a strong independent man refuses

on point (e) Dowie did the same - and Dowie was right..where is ledesma, SDC, tomassi and parejo now?

However, again on point (e) me thinks Sousa was wrong to tinker to the level he did and wrong to dump blackstock and FB was actually right to demand certain things - it is his club after all

f) FB has enough and goes to boot Sousa
g) he is convinced not to do it
h)Sousa gets called to an emergency meeting on the Monday - he thinks he's getting the tic tac
i) Sousa, thinking he's getting the boot starts telling all and sundry what a winker FB is and other alleged confidential info
j) Sousa goes to said meeting and as a cost cutting exercise it's actually one of his coaches that is going - he thinks "phew"
k) A few days later, sousa's alleged expose of FB and the club gets put out on messageboards and the press.
l) FB fires him

On (l) PS has not tried to defend himself as he was bang to rights on point (i)


So, folks, that's my opinion of the situation and I very much doubt it's that far from the truth.

[haqpr1963]

Lets not beat around the bush and deal in some facts (albeit allegedly ;) )

a)Sousa was recommended by many including Capello for the job.
b)When things are fine FB stays out of it
c)Once we started losing/playing rubbish due to Sousa tinkering way too much FB got involved

on (c) my personal opinion was that sousa's tinkering and subsequent dire form of 2009 is what cost us the play-offs

d) FB starts getting involved, demanding certain players are played and demands we play attacking football
e) Sousa, being a strong independent man refuses

on point (e) Dowie did the same - and Dowie was right..where is ledesma, SDC, tomassi and parejo now?

However, again on point (e) me thinks Sousa was wrong to tinker to the level he did and wrong to dump blackstock and FB was actually right to demand certain things - it is his club after all

f) FB has enough and goes to boot Sousa
g) he is convinced not to do it
h)Sousa gets called to an emergency meeting on the Monday - he thinks he's getting the tic tac
i) Sousa, thinking he's getting the boot starts telling all and sundry what a winker FB is and other alleged confidential info
j) Sousa goes to said meeting and as a cost cutting exercise it's actually one of his coaches that is going - he thinks "phew"
k) A few days later, sousa's alleged expose of FB and the club gets put out on messageboards and the press.
l) FB fires him

On (l) PS has not tried to defend himself as he was bang to rights on point (i)


So, folks, that's my opinion of the situation and I very much doubt it's that far from the truth.

So you start your post by saying you are dealing in facts, and then you say pretty much everything is your opinion.....

Must have missed something... where were all these attacks on FB from Sousa?

What was the confidential info that PS passed on? If it was about Dexter (the only thing that the club have actually tried to dismiss as incorrect with their statement from his agent) than that was pretty much shot down by his statement on the Forest offy. On the other hand if it was about HH and Cookies fitness levels then that was pretty much covered by the press (did the source for your post on Reports forum get the sack for the same reason or was it just something you read in the press?)

Just my opinion :devil:

[THE FLYING COW]

scott jones is pretty much nail on head

i think scott jones is pretty much nail on head,there are seven of us that talk to the directors
BUT THEY JUST WONT SAY EXACTLY WHAT DID HAPPEN
but it does look like sousa infuriated flavio with his inabillity to take on board
any info
this idea that flavio picks the team is unproven
these directors dont tell me much at all if i ask them any thing that is near the mark they just completely move onto another subject
but one thing i think is certain is that flavio went absolutely crazy on the ipswich game it was like thats it ive had enough of this crap
we know that flavio goes to the training ground usually on a thursday
but i dont think its true that flavio wants to pick the team