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  • alexferguson60
    Bronze Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 640

    #1

    Loans out

    Right, we need to free up some room for more loan signings, since Warnock taking over's happening after the signing break.

    1) Priskin OUT - he's ****ing useless. At least Devon White made some effort. This guy had one game against Peterborough, and we all realised he was a useless ****.

    2) Bent OUT - he was dreadful against Middlesborough - and slow. An exercise in perpetual motion.

    3) Ikeme OUT - Get Cerny back in there. There's a rumour that the fact he's not playing might be about appearance money. Ikeme has no control of his box, and is indecisive.

    That frees up three loans for you.

    How about recalling Helguson (desperate times and all that)
  • QPR1234
    Gold Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 5250

    #2
    sorry to burst your bubble..

    we have prolly 1 more short term loan allowed... at most

    so even if we send em back we cant replace.

    only ikeme could be replaced by an "emergency loan"
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    • stainrodisalegend
      Platinum Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 13624

      #3
      Agree with all of that Alex apart from the one line about how we knew after Peterborough that Priskin was rubbish - we knew that BEFORE based on this abysmal career record, a quite baffling and desperate signing. Even without bringing in anyone new I think we wd be better without them as we cd play Cerny and Helguson who are both way better.

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      • stanistheman
        Platinum Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 11151

        #4
        I'd definitely recall Helguson.

        He might actually fit in with Warnock's style of play, which is direct and his teams put a lot of crosses into the box. This is similar to how Watford play, and he seems to do well there.

        As for Cerny. I'd play him ahead of Ikeme even if it does mean having to offer him another 2 year deal if he plays a certain amont of games.

        I fear for QPR's CCC survival if Ikeme keeps conceding goals on such a frequent basis and that could be more costly than keeping Cerny for another two years. Besides, if QPR sign Heaton or some other keeper in the summer and make it clear he is 1st choice, Cerny may not want to stay.

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        • Hertford Hoop
          W12 Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 15998

          #5
          Originally posted by stanistheman
          I'd definitely recall Helguson.

          He might actually fit in with Warnock's style of play, which is direct and his teams put a lot of crosses into the box. This is similar to how Watford play, and he seems to do well there.

          As for Cerny. I'd play him ahead of Ikeme even if it does mean having to offer him another 2 year deal if he plays a certain amont of games.

          I fear for QPR's CCC survival if Ikeme keeps conceding goals on such a frequent basis and that could be more costly than keeping Cerny for another two years. Besides, if QPR sign Heaton or some other keeper in the summer and make it clear he is 1st choice, Cerny may not want to stay.

          100% agree stan
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          • cross it Dave
            Silver Seat
            • Sep 2009
            • 3805

            #6
            Originally posted by garyqpr4eva
            sorry to burst your bubble..

            we have prolly 1 more short term loan allowed... at most

            so even if we send em back we cant replace.

            only ikeme could be replaced by an "emergency loan"
            If I understand you correctly, hypothetically then, could Speroni be an emergency loan and Clyne our final short term loan.

            If so, please Amit, get your cheque book outlively

            And bring Helguson back from Watford
            I have supported Rangers for 55 seasons, since March 1969.

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            • scott_jones

              #7
              Helguson isnt our player...they've paid X amount to have him for the rest of the season..suppose we could pay that back but, i'm pretty sure its done and dusted with a view to a perm contractually speaking

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              • cross it Dave
                Silver Seat
                • Sep 2009
                • 3805

                #8
                Originally posted by scott_jones
                Helguson isnt our player...they've paid X amount to have him for the rest of the season..suppose we could pay that back but, i'm pretty sure its done and dusted with a view to a perm contractually speaking
                you see Scott, there is where things get difficult for us ordinary mortals, as it's say's on both clubs official websites that Helguson is on loan
                I have supported Rangers for 55 seasons, since March 1969.

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                • scott_jones

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cross it Dave
                  you see Scott, there is where things get difficult for us ordinary mortals, as it's say's on both clubs official websites that Helguson is on loan
                  Well he is on loan. But rather than it being a "X player is on loan to x club and the owning club can recall him in an emergency/whenever they like/1 match notice", it's a "Watford have loaned him for the whole season paying a fee of £250,000 for his services; and a contract is in place for that loan to be made permanent at the end of the season".

                  So, if we wanted him back we would have to pay back the fee that they have paid for him for starters..not sure of any other legal implications.

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                  • cross it Dave
                    Silver Seat
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3805

                    #10
                    Someone once said "footballs a funny game"
                    I have supported Rangers for 55 seasons, since March 1969.

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                    • QPR1234
                      Gold Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 5250

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cross it Dave
                      If I understand you correctly, hypothetically then, could Speroni be an emergency loan and Clyne our final short term loan.

                      If so, please Amit, get your cheque book outlively

                      And bring Helguson back from Watford
                      that could happen.

                      doubt it mind.

                      likely ambrose + keeper
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                      • vblockranger
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 15218

                        #12
                        terrible desperate signings from a DOF in panic mode........

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                        • stanistheman
                          Platinum Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 11151

                          #13
                          Originally posted by scott_jones
                          Well he is on loan. But rather than it being a "X player is on loan to x club and the owning club can recall him in an emergency/whenever they like/1 match notice", it's a "Watford have loaned him for the whole season paying a fee of £250,000 for his services; and a contract is in place for that loan to be made permanent at the end of the season".

                          So, if we wanted him back we would have to pay back the fee that they have paid for him for starters..not sure of any other legal implications.

                          I thought they didn't even have the money to pay his wages in December and wanted to pay him less than the half they were paying.

                          If they have paid a fee to loan him, are they paying his full salary too?

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                          • scott_jones

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stanistheman
                            I thought they didn't even have the money to pay his wages in December and wanted to pay him less than the half they were paying.

                            If they have paid a fee to loan him, are they paying his full salary too?
                            I think he's probably bankrupting them..rumours yesterday they were asking for more time to pay their latest instalment as they have no cash

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                            • stainrodisalegend
                              Platinum Seat
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 13624

                              #15
                              so gary are you saying that even if we sent back the dead wood loans it wdn't make any difference because we have used up our allocation for the season? can anyone else confirm this? warnock must be furious.

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