Deleted thread?! Why censor debate?

[toboboly]

This thread;

http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52660

Has disappeared.

Just in case anyone was unsure what it regarded Pete started it and said that he thought that the club had not spent very much in the time of Briatore's chairmanship.

A few people agree with him, and the figures that he posted regarding how much players had been bought and sold for.

However a few people, myself included, didn't think that his statistics were accurate and explained why. For example we posted links from the official website and some links from this very board from previous threads.

Pete was adamant he was correct but despite my queries as to where he had gotten his information and could he please post it up so that it could be verified he was either unwilling, or unable to do so.

However I have come back to see if Pete had proven me and others wrong (I was willing to apologise straight away if that was the case) but the thread has gone. Not moved, but completely deleted.

Why is this? Surely it can't be because Pete was so out with his stats that it reflected badly on the message board? If thats the case he could just say sorry and admit he made a mistake. There were no profanities or slurs going on either.

This censorship when things are exposed as incorrect gives out very mixed signals. However can people judge matters if they cannot participate nor see both sides of the argument?

I presume they are not supposed to.

[FurtiveFox]

The thread had degenerated and Pete made the right decision to draw a line under it. Sorry but sometimes hard decisions have to be made and it takes a true leader to follow those decisions through. Well done Pete.

[toboboly]

Really. Can you tell me how it degenerated?

If it were the case then delete the offending post. Not the entire thread.

[Chalet1882]

well done pete as it was getting a roundabout debate and not worth continuing

i said it clear ure both right in ure own ways

gp "if" he is a lyer he will get find out and will get his comupance
if not hell ride off into the sunset with a £20 note plugged up his #### by the orange donut him self

[qblockpete]

it went down a path not relevant to what I waas talking about.

I was making the point on what we spent, then it degenerated into a farce.

I stand by what I said about loans and the compartively low expenditure considering we were aiming for champions league football or premiership in 12 months time.

(next year being 4th year)

[vblockranger]

hmmm argument must have started to go against Pete then....he always deletes those he knows he cat win. Take no notice of FurtiveFox, talks rubbish :-)

[toboboly]

Pete,

Please explain with details how it went down a path you didn't approve of.

Also explain why you felt the need to remove the whole thread rather than an individual post.

[qblockpete]

I gave the figures spent in good faith, most will judge them to be true

[Chalet1882]

Pete,

Please explain with details how it went down a path you didn't approve of.

Also explain why you felt the need to remove the whole thread rather than an individual post.

this is a video of a round about and also resembles what the thread was turning into :cheers:

[terry ball]

This thread;

http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52660

Has disappeared.

Just in case anyone was unsure what it regarded Pete started it and said that he thought that the club had not spent very much in the time of Briatore's chairmanship.

A few people agree with him, and the figures that he posted regarding how much players had been bought and sold for.

However a few people, myself included, didn't think that his statistics were accurate and explained why. For example we posted links from the official website and some links from this very board from previous threads.

Pete was adamant he was correct but despite my queries as to where he had gotten his information and could he please post it up so that it could be verified he was either unwilling, or unable to do so.

However I have come back to see if Pete had proven me and others wrong (I was willing to apologise straight away if that was the case) but the thread has gone. Not moved, but completely deleted.

Why is this? Surely it can't be because Pete was so out with his stats that it reflected badly on the message board? If thats the case he could just say sorry and admit he made a mistake. There were no profanities or slurs going on either.

This censorship when things are exposed as incorrect gives out very mixed signals. However can people judge matters if they cannot participate nor see both sides of the argument?

I presume they are not supposed to.

I had been reading this thread on my phone at work during the and was looking forward to contributing to it once i got in.

I would like to say i was impressed with the well structured debate you was having. From what i see no insults were flying about for a change and there were some well balanced views

I can only assume the thread was deleted as Pete was ready to bring in the JCB to help with the hole he was digging.

Get used to having threrads deleted or moved to the board room that show GP in a bad light.

[Pyrford Ranger]

it went down a path not relevant to what I waas talking about.

I was making the point on what we spent, then it degenerated into a farce.

I stand by what I said about loans and the compartively low expenditure considering we were aiming for champions league football or premiership in 12 months time.

(next year being 4th year)

so why did you keep defending them week after week?

[Nodge70]

Surely a case for locking a thread rather than deleting?

IMO deleting threads should be reserved for anything racist, libellous or defamatory.

Deleting threads leads to a culture of bullying ("It's my ball and I'm taking it home because you don't agree with me") or deliberate manipulation of the truth.

For transparency, I believe the thread should be resurrected, but locked to prevent the cycle of ******** that it was clearly becoming.

IMO.

[toboboly]

Pete,

If by farce you mean people backing up their points with fact which made your points redundant then I guess you must be correct.

However I have never heard of that so I take it you just decided that you were looking a little silly and you were unable to back up your points with the necessary workings out?

You said the club hadn't spent much during Briatore's reign.

I give you;

Ali Russell's salary,

GP's £140k loan,

Connolly, Paddy, Alberti, Faurlin, Gorkss, Delaney, Quashie, Vine, Buz, Hall, Cerny, Borrowdale, Tommassi, Mahon, Cook, Pickens, Bircham, Sousa, Olivera, LDC, Dowie, Flowers, Magilton, Gorman and a load of other people whose salaries, signing on fees and in some cases transfer fees have all been paid by the club.

The loan players whose wages we pay/or partly pay; Hill, Heaton, Taylor, Jarrett, Lee, Di Carmine, Ledesma, Taraabt and others besides.

The "jumbotron" screen and new scoreboards. The new paintwork and seat refurbishment. The refurbishment of the C-club and corporate hospitality plus other parts of the inside and outside of the ground.


Are you seriously attempting to say that all of this cost a negligible amount?

[qblockpete]

Nodge70

have no problem with the orgiinal post

Hopefully this will all change, as Flavio didn't really get his wallet out



Adel Taarabt Tottenham...........loan
Akos Buzsaky Plymouth............500,000
Alejandro Faurlin Institute.........free transfer
Alessandro Pellicori Avellino......free
Ben Watson Wigan.......loan
Bob Malcolm Derby.....free
Chris Arthur Kettering...youth
ikeme.. loan
Damiano Tommasi Levante..free
Damien Delaney Hull...£600,000 sold £650,000
Daniel Parejo Real Madrid loan
Emmanuel Ledesma Genoa...loan
Fitz Hall Wigan....£800,000
Gary Borrowdale Coventry...100,000 plus appearances..raising to £200,000
Gavin Mahon Watford £100,000
Heidar Helguson Bolton...400,000...sell to watford 400,000 in summer???
Hogan Ephraim West Ham...£200,000 up to £500,000 after so many games
Jason Jarrett Preston...loan
Jay Simpson Arsenal...loan
Joe Oastler Portsmouth..youth
Jordi Lopez Mallorca...loan
Kaspars Gorkss Blackpool...£250,000
Kieran Lee Man Utd...loan
Lee Cook Fulham..£.800,000 sold for 2 million before
Liam Miller Sunderland...loan
Martin Cranie Portsmouth..loan
Matt Pickens Chicago...free
Matt Hill Wolves...loan
Matthew Connolly Arsenal..£200,000 up to £500,000 on appearances
Mikele Leigertwood Sheff Utd £600,000
Michael Mancienne Chelsea..loan
Nigel Quashie West Ham..free
Patrick Agyemang Preston..£100,000 up to £300,000 on appearances
Peter Ramage Newcastle..free
Radek Cerny Tottenham..free
Rhys Taylor Chelsea..loan
Rowan Vine Birmingham..£900,000
Samuel De Carmine Fiorentina..loan
Scott Sinclair Chelsea...loan
Steven Reid Blackburn..loan
priskin..loan
Tom Heaton Man Utd..loan
Tom Williams Peterborough..loan
Marcus bent...loan
Wayne Routledge Aston Villa...£400,000 sold 1.75 million if go up to premiership another £250,000

sold dex 1.75 million
camp 200,000
walton 700,000
barker sold 100,000

[Hoopaman]

Slightly p....ed off as I contributed to the thread at fricking 430am before going to work. Have now logged on to see any replies to find the thread has been deleted. What's the point!!! Couldn't it have been locked?????