Another football club getting a new ground before QPR

[Isleworth116]

I'm guessing Brentford are slightly regretting building a 17K stadium with no prospect of extending it? They could easily attract another 10K bums on seats for most games if they had a bigger away stand and welcomed more tourists. They kind of look settled into the Prem midtable so could be interested in building a bigger gaff and letting us bunk in with them?

I do personally feel the "British way" of every team having it's own stadium is daft and wasteful, particularly in locales with a few clubs all nearby to each other. Nobody bats an eyelid when a football team shares a stadium with a rugby team so dunno what the beef is with sharing with another football team? Still, that's another debate for another day,,,,,

Most premier league team gate receipts low percentage of income. Pretty sure Palace at 10%. Another 10k seats for Brentford, relatively small increase in turnover.

[72bus]

Fulham came to us many years ago ( had a cheek putting their crest up in the ellersie ).
Lazio and Roma do it amongst others.
When u think about it , the stadium sits idle earning no corn except once maybe twice a fortnight.

[Abseits]

Should consider a ground share and make it a bit bigger!

I'm guessing Brentford are slightly regretting building a 17K stadium with no prospect of extending it? They could easily attract another 10K bums on seats for most games if they had a bigger away stand and welcomed more tourists. They kind of look settled into the Prem midtable so could be interested in building a bigger gaff and letting us bunk in with them?

I do personally feel the "British way" of every team having it's own stadium is daft and wasteful, particularly in locales with a few clubs all nearby to each other. Nobody bats an eyelid when a football team shares a stadium with a rugby team so dunno what the beef is with sharing with another football team? Still, that's another debate for another day,,,,,

[daveshads]

We are where we are now and the position is a difficult one, I completely understand.
My concerns cover decades, during which we have seen some periods of strength and great success, contrary to where we are now. Although at a lower level, Wealdstone are experiencing greater success than they ever experienced previously. I applaud their enterprise and regret that, for whatever reasons, we are suffering from what is nearly always the likely effect of standing still.
I hope the new investors are found soon and that, combined with sound management, they can lead our great club to great success.

[SheepRanger]

The council said they wont help billionaires buy London land at a discount.

Our owners have already sunk circa £300m into Qpr and but its apparently a lack of ambition that they wont spend another £400m to build a new stadium.

Its very easy to spend other people's money.

But we are looking for new investors and any thougts of a new stadium will have to wait until theyre onboard.

[daveshads]

Middlesexsr I was very disappointed by the response you received to your informative post. I fear that it may reflect the lack of ambition that is at the heart of the club. This lack of ambition (over decades) seems to have pervaded the thoughts of much of our fanbase such that we are now grateful for anything at all really. I wrote in another post that QPR is a fine club with a great history but has been the subject of terrible, perhaps completely absent, forward planning. (Do we even now have a plan, does anybody know)?
Scrubs Lane was often voiced as a possible area for a new stadium but I believe that would have been a terrible decision. The inexorable drift continues for now. Loftus Road is a wonderful ground with great memories and an aura. However it cannot see us move forward in any expansive way. It seems to me that without a known long term plan, it might be part of a great asset stripping. I hope I am wrong.

[daveshads]

I was thinking along the same lines but I won't hold my breath. Perhaps Marti has something in mind . Hoping for better times ahead, but a continuation of the recent past might see us playing Wealdstone! An opportunity disappearing perhaps......

[Boo Radley]

Should consider a ground share and make it a bit bigger!

[daveshads]

As a hoops fan for over 55 years and as somebody who lived right next to that site in Hillingdon for 43 years (I moved to West Berks 2 years ago).
There was also a much bigger sight near there (ski slope) which was mentioned many years ago as a possible new home for the hoops. But clearly nothing came of it. Our ground at LR holds many memories and has an aura about it, but these sentiments won't survive economic pressures.
Various QPR boards over decades have all been lacking in foresight and understanding what standing still will do to you. Sometimes we could have relocated from a position of strength. But now???? There were many reasons to move (still are) - strong local fan base/ traffic considerations/ multi functional facility.
I despaired when I read this post about Wealdstone but all good luck and best wishes to them for their enterprise, which we have never had!

[ragr]

It's not a fair comparison because they had to move to the edge of the city to build it but Colchester United have had lots of success - I have no clue as to the financials - in using rooms at their stadium for company presentations, small business meetings, parties, discos, comedy nights and tribute (vomit!) acts. One of the local authorities I did consultancy work for had 2-3 rooms booked pretty much every non-matchday there. It struck me at the time as very innovative use of the space - but, it hasn't helped them on the pitch. They've also hosted the occasional concert at the venue, including Elton John - the car park had enough space for his helo and the limo for the 100 yards to the door.

[SheepRanger]

Hope Hoos is reading this! We are missing out on literally tens of £s of revenue by letting LR sit there dormant most days.

Community use = future planning consent!
Although, didnt work out with the KPF Stadium!
#### it........naming rights = £££££££

[Abseits]

Womens Institute, book recitals and jumble sales.

Hope Hoos is reading this! We are missing out on literally tens of £s of revenue by letting LR sit there dormant most days.

[SheepRanger]

Events more likely to be small scale. Function room use etc. Company Presentations, Xmas Dinners etc. Events residents unlikely to notice.

Womens Institute, book recitals and jumble sales.

[Isleworth116]

I'd like to see evidence of this in terms of a big flash stadium in a built-up UK urban area. Wrexham (with all the love and good-will going their way) are massively struggling to build a single poxy stand of 5000. Local council putting loads of hurdles and barriers in the way. Even if/when it gets built there will be many many restrictions in terms of the ongoing use. The local communities and residents will always kick up a stink about any additional events and most local councils will agree with them.

Ultimately, any stadium (including tatty old Loftus Road) can technically hold other events but the simple fact is that most stadia barely hold 1 or 2 significant additional events outside their core use a year - I dont agree it's the "cash cow" developers would tout it to be. In any case, with a dozen football clubs in London plus all the additional venues available, the market is pretty saturated.

Events more likely to be small scale. Function room use etc. Company Presentations, Xmas Dinners etc. Events residents unlikely to notice.

[Abseits]

A new stadium isn’t first of all about increasing capacity, but creating more none-matchday revenue. It can improve our annual budget by several millions.

I'd like to see evidence of this in terms of a big flash stadium in a built-up UK urban area. Wrexham (with all the love and good-will going their way) are massively struggling to build a single poxy stand of 5000. Local council putting loads of hurdles and barriers in the way. Even if/when it gets built there will be many many restrictions in terms of the ongoing use. The local communities and residents will always kick up a stink about any additional events and most local councils will agree with them.

Ultimately, any stadium (including tatty old Loftus Road) can technically hold other events but the simple fact is that most stadia barely hold 1 or 2 significant additional events outside their core use a year - I dont agree it's the "cash cow" developers would tout it to be. In any case, with a dozen football clubs in London plus all the additional venues available, the market is pretty saturated.