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  • Shania
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    Beggars can`t be chosers; He has to play for us today, because we need points.

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  • QPRDave
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    Originally posted by Joe90 View Post

    Why let him have a stage? He's one of our best players and we're in terrible form!

    His and the clubs intention is to agree on terms that suit both parties.

    I think if the club is too punitive towards players they're setting themselves up for failure. We've gone from one extreme to the other with contracts/wages!

    We just got 18/20 million for Eze, sometimes it works and other times it can be more tricky or you get nothing.

    I'm definitely not in cloud cuckoo land. This is the reality of the situation, you can't force a player to sign a contract!!!
    Yeah cause we won all the games up to now, he made a real difference.
    The club obviously feel he's taking the #### by dropping him.
    You know he has good intentions do you? No you don't

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  • Joe90
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    Originally posted by QPRDave View Post

    But why let him have a stage to attract a new team?
    If he is intent on moving on and denying the club a fee then let him take control of his own fitness.
    If you and players can't see the injustice of the club not getting a fee, then both you and the player live in cloud cuckoo land.
    Players and agents are destroying clubs with this greed.
    Why let him have a stage? He's one of our best players and we're in terrible form!

    His and the clubs intention is to agree on terms that suit both parties.

    I think if the club is too punitive towards players they're setting themselves up for failure. We've gone from one extreme to the other with contracts/wages!

    We just got 18/20 million for Eze, sometimes it works and other times it can be more tricky or you get nothing.

    I'm definitely not in cloud cuckoo land. This is the reality of the situation, you can't force a player to sign a contract!!!

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  • QPRDave
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    Originally posted by cross it Dave View Post
    I am being to wonder if some of the posters on this site are actually Rangers supporters and not players agents.
    Exactly, football is tribal, it's supposed to be as well.

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  • QPRDave
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    Originally posted by Joe90 View Post
    There had been suggestion previously in the thread that because he is reluctant to sign a new contract he should be banned from the training ground/stadium.

    Firstly, that is a ridiculous suggestion on some many levels. Second, dropping him from the first team for football reasons is fine, but in this case it's only hurting the team/fans not BOS.

    BOS is well within his rights to negotiate a new contract, it's the club choosing not to play him.
    But why let him have a stage to attract a new team?
    If he is intent on moving on and denying the club a fee then let him take control of his own fitness.
    If you and players can't see the injustice of the club not getting a fee, then both you and the player live in cloud cuckoo land.
    Players and agents are destroying clubs with this greed.

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  • Stainrod
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    Originally posted by cross it Dave View Post
    I am being to wonder if some of the posters on this site are actually Rangers supporters and not players agents.
    You need to accept the reality of the situation rather than seeing it purely as a QPR fan .

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  • cross it Dave
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    I am being to wonder if some of the posters on this site are actually Rangers supporters and not players agents.

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  • Joe90
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    There had been suggestion previously in the thread that because he is reluctant to sign a new contract he should be banned from the training ground/stadium.

    Firstly, that is a ridiculous suggestion on some many levels. Second, dropping him from the first team for football reasons is fine, but in this case it's only hurting the team/fans not BOS.

    BOS is well within his rights to negotiate a new contract, it's the club choosing not to play him.

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  • Stainrod
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    Originally posted by eam1882 View Post
    Can't argue with that stainrod.
    He’s our best player , we are struggling, we need him .

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  • eam1882
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    Can't argue with that stainrod.

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  • Stainrod
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    Looks like he’s back in contention for Saturday, Warbs saying contract talks heading the right way , I’d say it’s more like we are crap without him .

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  • Joe90
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    You're right, there is no guarantee the player will be selected to play every week. I don't think anyone is disputing that?

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  • Joe90
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    Originally posted by cross it Dave View Post
    So are you saying that an employee of a company has a legal right of entry to their employers premises?
    It would be very stupid and unnecessary move on the clubs part to ban him from the training ground/stadium, that would effectively be constructive dismissal. Unless he's gone through an official procedure and is being punished for misconduct I don't think you'd ban someone from the premises.

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  • Joe90
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    The club should think carefully before acting punitively towards players who won't sign a new contract. Players are well within their right not to sign a new contract and it doesn't reflect well on the club that they have to effectively bully a player into staying. First and foremost - the player and club must honour the existing contract, BOS has played this season and hasn't done any worse than other players.

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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by QPROslo View Post

    Letting good players run down their contracts while playing is the way to end a football club. Clubs like QPR can only be run sustainably over time by selling good players and create profit from transfers. In reality, if we allow good players to run down their contracts and leave on a free we pass on all potential transfer fees to these players. They will get great sign on fees and better salaries and we will get nothing.

    QPR have therefore only one option, if they fail to force a sale or a contract renewal with one year left of the contract, and that is to send a clear signal to all other players: If you resist being sold and if you resist signing a new contract, you won't play. It is not good for a player's development to be left out for months, and it is important other players that would like to undermine the club understand it.

    Ideally, if someone wants to take BOS in January and offer us a tiny nominal fee (£250.000 as in the case of Manning), we might actually be better off saying no thanks, and let the player rot for another six months. We loose the transfer fee and we have to pay salaries for another six months, but it sends out the right signal to all other players that QPR mean business. It is a short term pain, long term gain.

    While the Bosman ruling from 1995 makes a lot of sense, it has shifted the power too much in the favor of players. As Dave says, football isn't just an ordinary business. Bigger clubs gain from these situations (Celtic or Rangers will get BOS for free), smaller club never. I think there should be a tribunal setting a fee for players that leave after end of contract, just like there is a standard compensation for U21 players that move club.
    I think you are correct in turning down nominal bids and then let the player rot in the youth teams. The clubs need to get back some of the power from players and their agents (I think with BOS it is most likely his agent who is calling all the shots and refusing a deal.

    Tbh I think our team is weak even with him in it, so dropping him isn't going to make a great deal of difference. Having Eze, in the team gave more freedom to BOS and Chair to shine. Without him we only see glimpses of how they played last season.

    ​​​​​​​Drop him and play Chair Willock and Adomah behind Dykes, Bonne or both of them.

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