Why can't managers just be honest?

[qpr-buzsaky]

he couldn't have always told the truth...he denied the headbutt saga........

I doubt he did headbut buzsaky, i actually think they went head to head and buzsaky ran out

[Quaz]

I doubt he did headbut buzsaky, i actually think they went head to head and buzsaky ran out

but he denied any wrong doing...when clearly something happened...so he lied......

[qpr-buzsaky]

but he denied any wrong doing...when clearly something happened...so he lied......

that was to save himself from not being able to get another job in football, i thought we were talking about post-match comments and in press conferences? magilton took honesty too far and it led to him losing the dressing room

[Quaz]

that was to save himself from not being able to get another job in football, i thought we were talking about post-match comments and in press conferences? magilton took honesty too far and it led to him losing the dressing room

was it honesty or angry tantrums...hard to tell with him......he has a history of bullying.....so might not be a case of being honest but more insulting.

[qpr-buzsaky]

was it honesty or angry tantrums...hard to tell with him......he has a history of bullying.....so might not be a case of being honest but more insulting.

maybe so, but he spoke his mind and was not afraid to take on the "big time charlies" at the club, i agree with honesty, but only to a cerain degree, he took it too far

[Quaz]

maybe so, but he spoke his mind and was not afraid to take on the "big time charlies" at the club, i agree with honesty, but only to a cerain degree, he took it too far

true...way too far...but i honestly think he knew his days were numbered before that.......

[Bernie's Barnet]

Magilton lost the dressing room, he obviously told the truth because things got a bit heated in the dressing room at watford and it led to him being sacked, if managers told the truth, do you think that players would want to play under them? if your manager told the press you thought you were the best player at the club and you played s*** would you want to play under them? managers should be honest, but you can take honesty too far as magilton has shown us, managers should be honest, only commenting on how you played as a team because you should only talk to individuals in private, but nowadays anything can get you sacked especially at qpr so managers have to watch their mouth

Mate...telling people where they are going wrong is one thing, constantly physically abusing and threatening them is another entirely. Many many incidents of Magilton having allegedly committed unprovoked acts of violence which allegedly went unreported because he immediately used "the sanctity of the drssing room" combined with legal threats to get it covered up. The bloke should never have been allowed within a million miles of football management.

[qpr-buzsaky]

Mate...telling people where they are going wrong is one thing, constantly physically abusing and threatening them is another entirely. Many many incidents of Magilton having allegedly committed unprovoked acts of violence which allegedly went unreported because he immediately used "the sanctity of the drssing room" combined with legal threats to get it covered up. The bloke should never have been allowed within a million miles of football management.

did he do it more than once? i thought it was only buzsaky, i agree he took it way too far but im not sure he did it more than once?

[Quaz]

did he do it more than once? i thought it was only buzsaky, i agree he took it way too far but im not sure he did it more than once?

he done it at ipswich as a player and manager....think it was marcus stewart there...might be wrong tho.

[qpr-buzsaky]

he did it more than once? if true he shouldnt be allowed to manage again, i agreed with him slating the big time charlies but if he has a history of violence and he has done it again he shouldnt be allowed to manage again

[Quaz]

he did it more than once? if true he shouldnt be allowed to manage again, i agreed with him slating the big time charlies but if he has a history of violence and he has done it again he shouldnt be allowed to manage again

that is why he went for mutal consent......so he can still work........

[Bernie's Barnet]

he done it at ipswich as a player and manager....think it was marcus stewart there...might be wrong tho.

Marcus Stewart missed a significant part of Ipswich's relegation season after "a training ground incident" which saw him suffer a broken jaw. There was a young lad at Ipswich more recently whose name escapes me who was allegedly bullied and assaulted, who I believe subsequently gave up the game. Think Donny, a "missed bus" and Taarabt surprisingly on the subs bench and an alleged incident in the changing room after the game. Alleged affairs with Ipswich WAGs. Just some of the...errmm...highlights (allegedly of course). How the guy was EVER shortlisted for the QPR job is beyond me.

[Receed R]

if he started a row with me he would go down quicker than the french revolution

or sink quicker than the spanish armarda

[silvercue]

Simple. Because it is not their job to be honest. It is to win football matches.

No more than it is the job of financial bigshots to tell the truth. If they tell the truth then confidence in the economy can be jeaopordised - hence meaning they have failed in their job.

If the manager believes the best way to win is to praise the team, even when they are not that good, then he is doing his job as he sees fit.

Honesty is not on the Job Description.

[Kirill]

if he started a row with me he would go down quicker than the french revolution

or sink quicker than the spanish armarda

That is so reassuring to know, whatever next ... a p*ssing contest?

Oh and the French Revolution took several years to fizzle out BTW :exciting: