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  • themodfather
    Silver Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 4317

    #1

    new ground...now is the time

    brizzle and spurs are planning for the future

    loftus rd is barely up to prem standard

    surely we look now at land and plans for a new arena somewhere near the bush?
    in a recession we may get a better deal??
    bbc are skint, army may sell off that piece of TA in SAR and council may negotiate for that run down plastic pitch...there is the space...

    new ground for 25,000 ( with room to add)
    use rainwater into reservoirs for watering pitch
    ( enviro friendly, we may get "incentives" for this??)
    leg room
    room for our own clubhouse ( as newky have)
    built in gym/indoor pitch as arsenal had, for use and hire by locals,members etc
    maybe an area that converts into safe terrace as german clubs can do

    PLAN IT NOW....if we don't go up, soon...no worries.
  • Scarlet pimple
    Gold Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 5006

    #2
    Been saying the same for ages.....Loftus rd is our spiritual home but is tired and old, we need to compete with fulham chelsea and not get left behind.
    Last edited by Scarlet pimple; 06-11-2009, 03:11 PM.
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    • Receed R

      #3
      lets get promoted first and then we can consider a new ground

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      • qprjames
        Silver Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 4353

        #4
        Redevelope LR
        Now, Then, Forever
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        • MYU
          Administrator
          • Mar 2009
          • 43466

          #5
          I agree, we need to start planning... it's not if we go up it's when and lets be ready.

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          • qprmarc
            Silver Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 1942

            #6
            i agree would rather redevelop loftus road like fulham did craven cottage...

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            • Scarlet pimple
              Gold Seat
              • Mar 2009
              • 5006

              #7
              Its called planning for the future.
              They seek him here.................

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              • qprjames
                Silver Seat
                • Mar 2009
                • 4353

                #8
                Originally posted by qprmarc
                i agree would rather redevelop loftus road like fulham did craven cottage...
                Perfect. We could redevelope virtually all stands. Knock down ellersie and build it up steeper. Same with school and Loft. And I'm sure you could add a teir onto SAR.

                Have to be honest with you, cant see us moving anytime soon
                Now, Then, Forever
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                • Scarlet pimple
                  Gold Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 5006

                  #9
                  Originally posted by qprjames
                  Perfect. We could redevelope virtually all stands. Knock down ellersie and build it up steeper. Same with school and Loft. And I'm sure you could add a teir onto SAR.

                  Have to be honest with you, cant see us moving anytime soon

                  Think you will find there is little room for scope at lr, cant expand outwards, no room, and sar is at maximam allowed hieght, (council regulations) move to local new ground best option.
                  They seek him here.................

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                  • themodfather
                    Silver Seat
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 4317

                    #10
                    plan now, apply for planning permission ( could take ages) and wait....

                    all depends on promotion....and we need to sell out more home games
                    be ready....
                    if we go up....manure,lpool,asre,spuds,wet sham, chelsh WILL ALL WANt 5000 tKtS....

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                    • qprjames
                      Silver Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 4353

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Scarlet pimple
                      Think you will find there is little room for scope at lr, cant expand outwards, no room, and sar is at maximam allowed hieght, (council regulations) move to local new ground best option.
                      It is definatley possibe and apparentley we are looking at it at the moment. Thing is The stands are so shallow and are not steep at all. If you compare Chelsea's stand, it is incredably steep and from doing that you gain more seats.

                      I think we should apply now and see what happens.
                      If not and we have to move I hope we build a ground were atmosphere is a key design concept-stands close to the pitch, not a big bowl like some other stadiums
                      Now, Then, Forever
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                      • Scarlet pimple
                        Gold Seat
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 5006

                        #12
                        Originally posted by qprjames
                        It is definatley possibe and apparentley we are looking at it at the moment. Thing is The stands are so shallow and are not steep at all. If you compare Chelsea's stand, it is incredably steep and from doing that you gain more seats.

                        I think we should apply now and see what happens.
                        If not and we have to move I hope we build a ground were atmosphere is a key design concept-stands close to the pitch, not a big bowl like some other stadiums

                        Stands are prob shallow cos of height restiction, we are hemmed in by houses and such and affected by natural light regulations.
                        They seek him here.................

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                        • Gtleighsr3
                          CCG
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 23569

                          #13
                          I will keep my eye open for some suitable land in essex for the ground.
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                          • stanistheman
                            Platinum Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 11151

                            #14
                            Originally posted by HA9 RANGER
                            lets get promoted first and then we can consider a new ground

                            Don't agree. Look at how many clubs have built new stadiums before going up.

                            Bolton, Wigan, Reading, Stoke, Hull.

                            Add to that the new stadiums for Arsenal, Man City, Leicester, Derby, Middlesbro, Sunderland, Southampton, Cardiff, Swansea, Doncaster, Mk Dons, Darlington, Northampton, Colchester.

                            Planned new stadiums Liverpool, Everton,Tottenham, Bristol City, Brighton, Chesterfield,

                            Others have revamped their tired old stadiums incl. Man U, Chelsea, West Ham, Fulham, Charlton. But this will be nigh on impossible at LR due to space restrictions and regulations.

                            I am sure I have missed a few more clubs out of the above.

                            At the current rate, QPR will have amongst the smallest and uncomfortbale stadiums out of all the top two divisions.

                            I agree, if QPR buy land/property now, they are likely to get a cheaper deal than wait until after winning promotion - which could be at least another 2 seasons after this one.

                            Loftus Road is QPR's spiritual home, but it is small, has poor views from 1000's of seats, no leg room and is absolutely crammed (if a reasonable crowd attends) when trying to get some refreshments or use the toilets at half time.

                            Apart from that it looks dated and a poor quality stadium and to be honest a bit of an embarrassment amongst these new stadiums.
                            Last edited by stanistheman; 06-11-2009, 04:04 PM.

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                            • themodfather
                              Silver Seat
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 4317

                              #15
                              with 4 tube stns and an overground nearby, the westway and numerous buses...we are in an ideal area...the obvious space seems along SAR....

                              also there is land at the end of SAR, bloemfontein end which is already demolished and vacant, but i am unsure of its size??

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