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  • hal9thou
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    Originally posted by Stanley
    How about a winger (not a wide MF) who regularly gets close to or near the byline for whipped in crosses (not diagonal ones from deeper positions)? Same tool needed for Sylla too.
    Yeah I didn't mention a winger because we've all been banging on about it for so long...... and yet still the service is predominatntly long ball diagonal :sighs:

    Just because we now play 4 at the back doesn't mean the winger problem is solved. 4-3-3 and 4-4-2 diamond are a couple of set ups c/w a back four which can end up way too narrow.

    Assuming we set up right for say Smith / Eze as a pair, I'm honestly not sure who our best traditional winger is. One genuine two footed winger would be enough. We could play Smyth free behind Smith / Eze with the wide man free for either side. Suddenly you have a real threat. But I'm not sure we have a wide man who can skin em in and out on both sides.

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    Originally posted by Norths
    His ratio is surely nowhere near that good? Not even into double figures this season.
    Norths his career stats = 1 every 199 minutes (source: transfer market). Most games end up around the 95m mark so... he is close to 1 in 2.

    But you have to set up for him.
    Last edited by hal9thou; 13-04-2018, 01:21 PM.

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  • lincoln ranger
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    Originally posted by Stanley
    How about a winger (not a wide MF) who regularly gets close to or near the byline for whipped in crosses (not diagonal ones from deeper positions)? Same tool needed for Sylla too.
    Don't we have enough wingers at the club already? Smyth, Wszolek, BOS, Shodipo, Wheeler, even Freeman could play that role if short!

    I'd personally love to see us play 4-4-2 with 2 out and out wingers and 2 strikers. NOT Washington or Mackie though!

    Will be interesting to see if Sylla is kept or moved on this Summer. He and Eze up front next season, banging in the goals supplied by crosses from Wszolek and Smyth? I like the sound of that.

    If it's not working...bring Smith on as an option B to go more direct, and guaranteed he will get the service with 2 wingers!

    You R'rsss!!!

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  • Stanley
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    Originally posted by Awin
    If Im honest I haven’t seen Pawel fizz one in for seasons.
    I agree but tbf how often has he been played as a genuine winger and not a wide MF? Moreover on the right side, not left. Going a little off-topic here anyway.

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  • Awin
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    Originally posted by Stanley
    Possibly. Not an all out winger but can certainly do that job. We'd need him inside too though for his goalscoring ability.

    Someone like BOS or Pawel fits the genuine winger role better imo.
    If Im honest I haven’t seen Pawel fizz one in for seasons.

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  • Stanley
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    Originally posted by Awin
    Sounds like Smyth to me.
    Possibly. Not an all out winger but can certainly do that job. We'd need him inside too though for his goalscoring ability.

    Someone like BOS or Pawel fits the genuine winger role better imo.

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  • Awin
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    Originally posted by Stanley
    How about a winger (not a wide MF) who regularly gets close to or near the byline for whipped in crosses (not diagonal ones from deeper positions)? Same tool needed for Sylla too.
    Sounds like Smyth to me.

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  • Stanley
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    Originally posted by hal9thou
    Doesn't matter how he does it. His ratio is excellent, career average a fraction over a goal every two games. And that includes stints at clubs like Fulham which never really attempted to accomnodate him.

    Give him the tools and he'll do the job. The tools including a strike partner who can thrive off his scraps. I think Eze may be the best bet for that role.
    How about a winger (not a wide MF) who regularly gets close to or near the byline for whipped in crosses (not diagonal ones from deeper positions)? Same tool needed for Sylla too.

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  • Norths
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    Originally posted by hal9thou
    Doesn't matter how he does it. His ratio is excellent, career average a fraction over a goal every two games. And that includes stints at clubs like Fulham which never really attempted to accomnodate him.

    Give him the tools and he'll do the job. The tools including a strike partner who can thrive off his scraps. I think Eze may be the best bet for that role.
    His ratio is surely nowhere near that good? Not even into double figures this season.

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  • hal9thou
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    Originally posted by Tarbie

    I like Smith, but to suggest he has genuine Championship standard footballing ability would be wrong in my opinion. He's got where he's got by being big and awkward,.
    Doesn't matter how he does it. His ratio is excellent, career average a fraction over a goal every two games. And that includes stints at clubs like Fulham which never really attempted to accomnodate him.

    Give him the tools and he'll do the job. The tools including a strike partner who can thrive off his scraps. I think Eze may be the best bet for that role.

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  • QPRDave
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    Originally posted by Stanley
    The new law is confusing. Lots of players don't fully get it still. It was tweaked to have 1st and 2nd phase with the idea to keep the game flowing more, but that comes at a price because the line between the two phases gets easily blurred. Classic example of the confusion last night when Smithies came for the ball when the striker was offside but the lino couldn't flag it yet cos the striker hadn't touched it - forcing Smithies to come for the ball and ended up getting injured for his troubles. This flaw in the law amendment is what caused Smithies getting hurt essentially, and he was lucky to escape a worse injury. We see examples of this confusion every week, so to criticise Sylla for that is very harsh IMO Roms, especially on the back of a good personal performance with two very well taken goals.

    Both goals he made look easy but they took excellent ability. The first he created the space for himself. The second he outwitted the keeper under pressure, by hesitating a fraction on his run up until the keeper committed.
    Hate the new ruling

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  • West Acton
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    Originally posted by SpongeParr
    Sylla doesn't look like a footballer to me. Always looks awkward and clumsy but somehow, he scores a lot of goals.

    I know the argument is that this is what a striker is there to do but that isn't the case. If you are a high pressing team then you need work rate to go with that and if he has a barron run then we will be playing with 10 men..
    You could replace Syllas name with Smith in fairness

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  • Shepherds Mush
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    Originally posted by SpongeParr
    If you are a high pressing team then you need work rate to go with that and if he has a barron run then we will be playing with 10 men.
    Personally not fussed about a striker running about trying to press high up the pitch. I prefer he keeps his energy for short bursts into and around the box to get on the end of a pass / cross.

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  • hh9
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    More Sylly stat for those that do not believe in statistic - by the way one simple stat says we got 53 points from 42 games this season
    Sylla has only scored a single goal in one game he has been used as a sub
    If Sylla scores we don't loose 3 wins and 3 draws

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  • Tarbie
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    Originally posted by davieqpr
    You need a plan C ( Holloway hasn't got a plan A) it's okay when Smith is winning the headers but he doesn't always. That's when we need Sylla.
    Don't think he'll hang around if he continues to be used as a back up though mate, and he only has a year left on his deal. As such, it is the time to sell him if we aren't gonna play him!

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  • davieqpr
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    You need a plan C ( Holloway hasn't got a plan A) it's okay when Smith is winning the headers but he doesn't always. That's when we need Sylla.

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