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  • BarryBarry
    Apprentice
    • May 2014
    • 117

    #16
    No inside knowledge, but could it be that 352 was mandated by the club (ie LF and CR) as the 'club' style of play. As don't think IH has used it previously and he's needed their permission to change it?

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    • West Acton
      CCG
      • Dec 2009
      • 21475

      #17
      Not for me barry

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      • dogsrrs
        Gold Seat
        • Mar 2013
        • 6671

        #18
        Originally posted by BarryBarry
        No inside knowledge, but could it be that 352 was mandated by the club (ie LF and CR) as the 'club' style of play. As don't think IH has used it previously and he's needed their permission to change it?
        No not it in Holloway's make to have anybody telling him anything Bas

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        • corbray
          Silver Seat
          • Feb 2016
          • 3030

          #19
          Originally posted by BarryBarry
          No inside knowledge, but could it be that 352 was mandated by the club (ie LF and CR) as the 'club' style of play. As don't think IH has used it previously and he's needed their permission to change it?
          i don't think so, at the start of the season ollie said he was gunna figure out a formation and that we'd stick to it no matter what, he would have been the deciding factor at the end of the day and i think he wanted us to play a 352 as its a very modern approach to the game, a lot of the worlds top clubs are using it to great effect afterall.

          hopefully we don't go back to using it anytime soon as our players are far more suited to playing with 4 at the back. i'd like us to give 4231 a try as on paper it looks like it'd really suit our players though, luongo and scowen in front of the defence with a forward 4 of freeman/eze/smyth/pavel with sylla/smith in front of them has real potential imo

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          • Undecided
            Silver Seat
            • Sep 2017
            • 2077

            #20
            Originally posted by West Acton
            If true why is that person not the manager
            "Executive word in your shell like if you will Mister Holloway"

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            • Blobbers
              Apprentice
              • Mar 2018
              • 216

              #21
              If that's the reason then I'm a Dutchman.
              Yours sincerely,
              Hertz Van Rental.

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              • Hitman34
                Platinum Seat
                • Jan 2012
                • 13959

                #22
                Originally posted by Rangers77


                Hmmmm. You to play 442 or 4231, numb nuts.







                442 you must,
                4231 you will
                nsa/cia spy on this..............┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

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                • FurtiveFox
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 4168

                  #23
                  Ollie I think was close to being giving the sack until recently. You could tell by interviews demeanour, Uncle going quiet, results etc.

                  I would be surprised if someone didn't have a word. Ramsey for me always came across as intelligent and good reputation as a coach. Quite a few very highly rated coaches haven't made it as managers. Ollie good motivator but not an awful lot going upstairs. Bit of mutual respect for their respective skillsets and could be made to work a double act.

                  On other hand could have been Sir Les having a word as Ollie's boss.

                  Whatever reason has worked better last few games, particularly last two. Lets hope team keeps it up.

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                  • West Acton
                    CCG
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 21475

                    #24
                    Originally posted by FurtiveFox
                    Ollie I think was close to being giving the sack until recently. You could tell by interviews demeanour, Uncle going quiet, results etc.

                    I would be surprised if someone didn't have a word. Ramsey for me always came across as intelligent and good reputation as a coach. Quite a few very highly rated coaches haven't made it as managers. Ollie good motivator but not an awful lot going upstairs. Bit of mutual respect for their respective skillsets and could be made to work a double act.

                    On other hand could have been Sir Les having a word as Ollie's boss.

                    Whatever reason has worked better last few games, particularly last two. Lets hope team keeps it up.
                    Think this is pretty accurate of the state of play

                    Whatever whoever why ever it’s changed I’m just happy it has and the cloud has started to lift

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                    • Stanley
                      Guest
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 23693

                      #25
                      Originally posted by FurtiveFox
                      Ollie I think was close to being giving the sack until recently. You could tell by interviews demeanour, Uncle going quiet, results etc.

                      I would be surprised if someone didn't have a word. Ramsey for me always came across as intelligent and good reputation as a coach. Quite a few very highly rated coaches haven't made it as managers. Ollie good motivator but not an awful lot going upstairs. Bit of mutual respect for their respective skillsets and could be made to work a double act.

                      On other hand could have been Sir Les having a word as Ollie's boss.

                      Whatever reason has worked better last few games, particularly last two. Lets hope team keeps it up.
                      Agree with all that analysis Furtive. The only mystery is how it's taken them almost an entire season to figure out such a basic error. So basic that even us amateurs on here could spot just 4 games into the season.

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                      • FurtiveFox
                        Silver Seat
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 4168

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Stanley
                        Agree with all that analysis Furtive. The only mystery is how it's taken them almost an entire season to figure out such a basic error. So basic that even us amateurs on here could spot just 4 games into the season.
                        Pure guess work but I'd say it was last resort to try and avoid having to sack him. Ollie determined to make his system work come what may. Problem for him was we just don't have players for it. Every team would like to play like Barcelona. Problem is Washington isn't Messi, yet!

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                        • Alanwycombe
                          Silver Seat
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 2215

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Rangerod
                          Is it a coincidence that our form and general play has improved since Ramsey got promoted to coach? Could be a masterstroke having the more tactically aware Ramsey backing up/advising Ollie the motivator. Just a thought.
                          If so great, well done the DOF. Something had to be done. Furlong wasn't playing was he?
                          Last edited by Alanwycombe; 19-03-2018, 06:43 PM.

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                          • Undecided
                            Silver Seat
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 2077

                            #28
                            Originally posted by FurtiveFox
                            Pure guess work but I'd say it was last resort to try and avoid having to sack him. Ollie determined to make his system work come what may. Problem for him was we just don't have players for it. Every team would like to play like Barcelona. Problem is Washington isn't Messi, yet!
                            Exactly.

                            "OK Ollie, we've tried it your way, now THIS is what's GOING to happen"

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                            • gator
                              Gold Seat
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 6791

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Undecided
                              Exactly.

                              "OK Ollie, we've tried it your way, now THIS is what's GOING to happen"
                              Or was it maybe the DOF insisting on this formation, the plot thickens!
                              @gatorTFC

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                              • Undecided
                                Silver Seat
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 2077

                                #30
                                Originally posted by gator
                                Or was it maybe the DOF insisting on this formation, the plot thickens!
                                DOF insisting on 3 at the back plus wing backs?

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