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  • corbray
    Silver Seat
    • Feb 2016
    • 3030

    #46
    Originally posted by dogsrrs
    Eze via Millwall
    BOS via Blackpool
    Oteh via spurs
    Moved in front of our accademy graduates surely that tells us all we need to know about what we've got at the moment
    at least its a positive sign that we're spotting these youngsters and bringing them in, crewe have done it for years

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    • dogsrrs
      Gold Seat
      • Mar 2013
      • 6671

      #47
      Yes I think our scouting system is better than it's been for a very long time

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      • Shepherds Mush
        Platinum Seat
        • Nov 2012
        • 10325

        #48
        Originally posted by Alanwycombe
        No one we have loaned out comes back and makes a mark
        Didn't we loan Jack Robinson to Huddersfield for a season ?

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        • Tarbie
          Gold Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 8542

          #49
          Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
          Didn't we loan Jack Robinson to Huddersfield for a season ?
          And he came back with a ruined knee and was barely able to kick a ball for a year!

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          • Shepherds Mush
            Platinum Seat
            • Nov 2012
            • 10325

            #50
            Originally posted by 1973 ranger
            Like the look of Goss as he can pass and move the boy quickly something that should be being developed with our fast young players for future years.
            Problem for Goss is that Luongo and Scowen are in his natural position in the middle. Under Holloway, the loan to Rangers is a fantastic move for him.

            Personally would have had Goss and Manning on the bench and rotated with Luongo or Scowen for most of the season.

            As for Shodipo, would have to agree with the loan but if he's done well, he HAS to be included in the matchday squad. Sends out a good message to the other youth about earning your place.

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            • Hubble
              Postmodernist
              • Jan 2013
              • 5616

              #51
              I saw Shodipo play live a couple of times last season and I thought he looked fantastic. Been very disappointed he hasn't made a permanent breakthrough into the team. Hopefully the loan will put him back on track.

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              • Pinkie
                Silver Seat
                • Apr 2016
                • 4664

                #52
                Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
                Problem for Goss is that Luongo and Scowen are in his natural position in the middle. Under Holloway, the loan to Rangers is a fantastic move for him.

                Personally would have had Goss and Manning on the bench and rotated with Luongo or Scowen for most of the season.

                As for Shodipo, would have to agree with the loan but if he's done well, he HAS to be included in the matchday squad. Sends out a good message to the other youth about earning your place.
                Apparently goss in his rangers match against hibs i think was very behind the pace of a midfielder up there, be it his first game but can see possibly why he hasnt featured for us.
                http://soundcloud.com/pinkie2

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                • Shepherds Mush
                  Platinum Seat
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 10325

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Pinkie
                  Apparently goss in his rangers match against hibs i think was very behind the pace of a midfielder up there, be it his first game but can see possibly why he hasnt featured for us.
                  Should get up to speed with more games. Massive factor though playing proper competitive games at levels you aren't used to.

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                  • acricketer
                    Platinum Seat
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 12068

                    #54
                    Shodipo who?

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                    • Alanwycombe
                      Silver Seat
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 2215

                      #55
                      Mourinho on McTominay.....when asked if he was a risk M said something like ' why? He trains with first team squad, knows them all well, knows how we play and what I expect, so he can come in and play' Exactly. Our fringe players should be developed here, given the occasional chance to shine, included more if they do - not shipped out to Port Vale or Colchester to sit on their bench. Would also put more pressure on the regulars to get their finger out with a bit of competition in the background. We are not rich enough in talent to be loaning out Kane's and Abrahams and not even notice. In our world our kids should be encouraged not loaned out.

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                      • dogsrrs
                        Gold Seat
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 6671

                        #56
                        Al Smythe BOS Ezee Otteh have move in front of him a loan has got to in his interest , give him the chance to get game time and maybe return to move in front of them

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                        • Shepherds Mush
                          Platinum Seat
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 10325

                          #57
                          Not even getting a game on loan...someone at the club has got to question that haven't they?

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                          • dogsrrs
                            Gold Seat
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 6671

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
                            Not even getting a game on loan...someone at the club has got to question that haven't they?
                            Without doubt ! Recall him if he's not injured and look to own him elsewhere

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                            • Alanwycombe
                              Silver Seat
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 2215

                              #59
                              Originally posted by dogsrrs
                              Al Smythe BOS Ezee Otteh have move in front of him a loan has got to in his interest , give him the chance to get game time and maybe return to move in front of them
                              Dogs, I know we are unlikely to agree on this one but the reason they have moved ahead of him is because of 3-5-2 and Holloway's insistence on him defending. I would rather he was here putting pressure on Wszolek as a winger getting behind people and getting crosses in. Instead he was just sidelined. The four you mention aren't expected to defend but I wouldn't be surprised if Eze and Oteh get loaned out sometime. Holloway can't play them all. I just don't think it's the right policy for a club of our size to be loaning out youngsters and then not get a game. I'd like to see what they can do for us.

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                              • Jeems
                                Silver Seat
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 2857

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Alanwycombe
                                Mourinho on McTominay.....when asked if he was a risk M said something like ' why? He trains with first team squad, knows them all well, knows how we play and what I expect, so he can come in and play' Exactly. Our fringe players should be developed here, given the occasional chance to shine, included more if they do - not shipped out to Port Vale or Colchester to sit on their bench. Would also put more pressure on the regulars to get their finger out with a bit of competition in the background. We are not rich enough in talent to be loaning out Kane's and Abrahams and not even notice. In our world our kids should be encouraged not loaned out.
                                Not everyone is like McToninay . The majority of their youngsters certainly do not train with the 1st team squad on a consistent basis. If this chap cant get a game in the lower leagues, question marks have to be made about attitude. Certainly the talent is there.

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