Paul Clement

[Pinkie]

Chris Wilder has been in the job for about 6 months longer than Ollie has been with us mate. He's won 60% of his matches in that time compared to Ollies win rate of 30%.

Granted, he's brought them up from League 1 and has managed to keep the momentum going in the Championship. But he's done that on a shoestring and has done it purely through good management as far as I can tell.

And this is what makes a mockery of claims you've made previously about there being no tactically astute, man managers available to us. Wilder is exactly the type of manager we should be looking at!

Yeah but his win rates bound to be good after winning promotion in a league lower! footballs a basic game and it doesnt make wilder tactically astute at all, just basics, a system and players fitting it, theres nothing amazing or astute about that at all, as said we are a few short positions wise and if we could get what ollie wants for those positions now it would no doubt make us better in my opinion! yes ollies not gone with a more suitable formation with lack of wingbacks, but can see why hes done it to get the players used to the system, and i know he changes things in the game which i like as just keeping things to shape can sometimes be obvious to the opposition, but its not a lack of being tactically astute at all!

[Shania]

Yeah but his win rates bound to be good after winning promotion in a league lower! footballs a basic game and it doesnt make wilder tactically astute at all, just basics, a system and players fitting it, theres nothing amazing or astute about that at all, as said we are a few short positions wise and if we could get what ollie wants for those positions now it would no doubt make us better in my opinion! yes ollies not gone with a more suitable formation with lack of wingbacks, but can see why hes done it to get the players used to the system, and i know he changes things in the game which i like as just keeping things to shape can sometimes be obvious to the opposition, but its not a lack of being tactically astute at all!

This could mean that Wzolek will be sold. Selling such a good player, a Maverick on his day and in the right position, but if Olli finds the right wingbacks it might be worth it. Think is, It now seems like QPR as a club have decided to play a 3-5-2-system all over now.

[Pinkie]

Well hope not like you shania, we shouldnt just be stuck to one way of playing really and have players for other formations aswell

[Tarbie]

Yeah but his win rates bound to be good after winning promotion in a league lower! footballs a basic game and it doesnt make wilder tactically astute at all, just basics, a system and players fitting it, theres nothing amazing or astute about that at all, as said we are a few short positions wise and if we could get what ollie wants for those positions now it would no doubt make us better in my opinion! yes ollies not gone with a more suitable formation with lack of wingbacks, but can see why hes done it to get the players used to the system, and i know he changes things in the game which i like as just keeping things to shape can sometimes be obvious to the opposition, but its not a lack of being tactically astute at all!

Sorry mate, but I think you're deluded.

Gonna leave it there, cos we've been over this argument more times than I care to remember.

[Stanley]

some just keep knocking expecting us to be in the top 6

Another straw man.

[Pinkie]

Sorry mate, but I think you're deluded.

Gonna leave it there, cos we've been over this argument more times than I care to remember.

Im not going to say i think youre deluded tarbie as its just differing opinions mate

[FurtiveFox]

I dont know about that westy, i know one whos won a couple of promotions son

And how many relegations? Lol

[Pinkie]

And how many relegations? Lol

Looking forward to todays game arent you furtive, bet youve got youre robins red scarf on son cheering there boys on

[Shania]

Well hope not like you shania, we shouldnt just be stuck to one way of playing really and have players for other formations aswell

But I`m not sure Olli over night will make switching formations his speciality though. Heres is hoping of course.

[Pinkie]

And how many relegations? Lol

See you havnt posted on the match thread true to form

[FurtiveFox]

See you havnt posted on the match thread true to form

Anything other than a defeat under Dollie a relief. Credible one win in eight now to be fair to him. Things looking up.

[Pinkie]

Anything other than a defeat under Dollie a relief. Credible one win in eight now to be fair to him. Things looking up.

You must be itching seems as we`ve not lost the last two

[klonk]

Do we need a Gary Monk thread too now or should we all just accept that Holloway is going to be hanging around for a while yet?

[Undecided]

Do we need a Gary Monk thread too now or should we all just accept that Holloway is going to be hanging around for a while yet?

He's gonna be around for some time yet.

[Olly]

Promotion would pay our fine, is another way of looking at it for manager change