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  • lymehoop
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    Holloway went from hero to zero in his first stint as manager. Took over a club on it's knees with no players and somehow got us promoted. Then came the season he played that ###### Santos as a striker. Apart from his stint at Blackpool, he has been an abject failure at Leicester, Plymouth and Millwall. Ask their fans how they rate him

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  • West Acton
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    Originally posted by Itsonlyagame
    I think some people are underestimating what Ollie did for us.
    With the back drop of bucket collections and fans having to chip in and buy players he cobbled together a team who would have run through brick walls. Some were in the twilight of their careers such as Furlong and some he unearthed such as Martin Rowlands. Rowlands for me was a great little player and as for Furlong, ex Chelsea players don't always do well with us so to get him busting his gut the way Ollie did was a feat in itself.
    Ollie created the best vibe I've ever felt down loftus road. The fans and players all pulling together to dig us out of a very big hole and he did it. The fact we didn't play total bleedin football is neither here nor there, it was league one ffs.
    His job was to manage and he did it superbly. That last day at Hillsborough summed it up for me.
    After seeing us #### things up so many times before, the milk cup final for example, I had us down to blow it against Wednesday.
    Ollie got their heads one last time and helped get us over the line, exactly what a manager should do.

    Yes he's not much of a tactician and the novelty of his bizarre post match witterings is wearing off.
    And he may or may not be the right man for us at the moment or moving forwards.
    But to those who say he didn't really do that good a job for us in his first tenure, you're having a fu€king laugh.
    Decent post

    Off record since buckets have come up I'm sure I read at time we still had biggest budget in the league

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  • Tarbie
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    Originally posted by Itsonlyagame
    I think some people are underestimating what Ollie did for us.
    With the back drop of bucket collections and fans having to chip in and buy players he cobbled together a team who would have run through brick walls. Some were in the twilight of their careers such as Furlong and some he unearthed such as Martin Rowlands. Rowlands for me was a great little player and as for Furlong, ex Chelsea players don't always do well with us so to get him busting his gut the way Ollie did was a feat in itself.
    Ollie created the best vibe I've ever felt down loftus road. The fans and players all pulling together to dig us out of a very big hole and he did it. The fact we didn't play total bleedin football is neither here nor there, it was league one ffs.
    His job was to manage and he did it superbly. That last day at Hillsborough summed it up for me.
    After seeing us #### things up so many times before, the milk cup final for example, I had us down to blow it against Wednesday.
    Ollie got their heads one last time and helped get us over the line, exactly what a manager should do.

    Yes he's not much of a tactician and the novelty of his bizarre post match witterings is wearing off.
    And he may or may not be the right man for us at the moment or moving forwards.
    But to those who say he didn't really do that good a job for us in his first tenure, you're having a fu€king laugh.
    I never said he didn't do a good job in his first stint. He certainly did do a good for 2 of his seasons with us. What I said is that he is not a good manager. They are 2 different things.

    The guy is a 1 trick pony. Either his players buy into all the whacky nonsense and will run through brick walls for him or they won't, and he flops. You can see it the whole way through his career.

    Unfortunately, football has moved on and out expectations (rightly or wrongly) are set higher these days.
    Last edited by Tarbie; 20-07-2017, 06:03 AM.

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  • Itsonlyagame
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    I think some people are underestimating what Ollie did for us.
    With the back drop of bucket collections and fans having to chip in and buy players he cobbled together a team who would have run through brick walls. Some were in the twilight of their careers such as Furlong and some he unearthed such as Martin Rowlands. Rowlands for me was a great little player and as for Furlong, ex Chelsea players don't always do well with us so to get him busting his gut the way Ollie did was a feat in itself.
    Ollie created the best vibe I've ever felt down loftus road. The fans and players all pulling together to dig us out of a very big hole and he did it. The fact we didn't play total bleedin football is neither here nor there, it was league one ffs.
    His job was to manage and he did it superbly. That last day at Hillsborough summed it up for me.
    After seeing us #### things up so many times before, the milk cup final for example, I had us down to blow it against Wednesday.
    Ollie got their heads one last time and helped get us over the line, exactly what a manager should do.

    Yes he's not much of a tactician and the novelty of his bizarre post match witterings is wearing off.
    And he may or may not be the right man for us at the moment or moving forwards.
    But to those who say he didn't really do that good a job for us in his first tenure, you're having a fu€king laugh.

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  • Tarbie
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    Originally posted by corbray
    lets be honest though, ollie was easily our best manager (from our first prem relegation) until warnock came so he must have done something right, he did rebuild us afterall
    Yeah, he rebuilt us. Never our best manager from our first relegation until Warnock though. Had a couple of seasons where he got us firing but De Canio, Dowie, and arguably even Magilton and Sousa were better managers, even if the latter 2 of those struggled to get us playing well regularly enough.

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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by corbray
    lets be honest though, ollie was easily our best manager (from our first prem relegation) until warnock came so he must have done something right, he did rebuild us afterall
    It is true that he did rebuild the squad , but imo he was not blameless for relegation to League 1.
    I have stated my view on this before so won't go through this again.

    I think De Canio was a far better manager and so was Paulo Sousa, although the football was not very entertaining.
    Last edited by stanistheman; 19-07-2017, 11:04 PM.

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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by Pinkie
    Lolol here we go, stanis in his element probably a ex player sacked & 2003 was pretty the start of good things on the up even though we lost the playoff!
    No, he wasn't sacked .
    And you miss the point about 2003. I meant taking QPR back to League 1 football followed by long ball tactics that failed to work in the Championship. But no surprise that you don't get this.

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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
    Wasn't 2003 the start of us crawling back from the abyss ?
    I meant going back to League 1. However you guys like to twist things around to suit your own views.

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  • corbray
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    Originally posted by West Acton
    Di Canio had us playing some superb football he just never stayed long enough
    that is true, we played some nice stuff under him

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  • Shania
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    Originally posted by dogsrrs
    Never mind about that ! What do you know about this Norse striker we're after is he a true viking or the Norse God dud
    He is a good allround striker. Strong, fast, a quite decent header of the ball, and his tecnique is fairly good. I should believe he will strenghten our team, but i think he will sign for Norwich.

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  • Bluehoop
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    Originally posted by West Acton
    Di Canio had us playing some superb football he just never stayed long enough
    Sorry to be a pedant but Di Canio would have ruined us even more: De Canio on the other hand was probably the most inspired appointment we've made in years and I still harbour hopes that he will fulfill his promise of returning one day

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  • West Acton
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    Originally posted by corbray
    lets be honest though, ollie was easily our best manager (from our first prem relegation) until warnock came so he must have done something right, he did rebuild us afterall
    Di Canio had us playing some superb football he just never stayed long enough

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  • corbray
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    Originally posted by stanistheman
    Yes, it is important how the players rate him. Perhaps it isn't very highly.

    I was talking to one ex player yesterday who clearly did not rate him as a manager or coach. He also thought appointing him was a backward step taking the club back down to where it was in 2003.

    He laughed when I reminded him of Georges Santos playing up front.
    lets be honest though, ollie was easily our best manager (from our first prem relegation) until warnock came so he must have done something right, he did rebuild us afterall

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  • dogsrrs
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    Originally posted by Shania
    Why? The really worrying fact is that he didn`t stop experimenting before it was almost too late.
    Never mind about that ! What do you know about this Norse striker we're after is he a true viking or the Norse God dud

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  • Pinkie
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    Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
    Wasn't 2003 the start of us crawling back from the abyss ?
    Exactly what i put! but dont let that get in the way.

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