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  • stanistheman
    Platinum Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 11151

    #31
    Originally posted by Fordy
    Barnsley fans really rate him.
    Wasn't Bidwell also highly rated by Brentford?

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    • Ginger Ninja
      W12 Seat
      • Jan 2010
      • 17458

      #32
      Originally posted by stanistheman
      Wasn't Bidwell also highly rated by Brentford?
      Bidwell did a lot better for Brentford than he did for us. Even then, Bidwell hasn't done badly for us.
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      • lymehoop
        Gold Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 7380

        #33
        Originally posted by stanistheman
        Wasn't Bidwell also highly rated by Brentford?
        ''steady Eddie'' I think was the phrase they used
        I must away now, I can no longer tarry
        This morning's tempest I have to cross
        I must be guided without a stumble
        Into the arms I love the most

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        • Tarbie
          Gold Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 8542

          #34
          Originally posted by lymehoop
          ''steady Eddie'' I think was the phrase they used
          I'm sure he could have been for us we just used him as a left back in a 4 man defence. I don't for a second think he's been as bad as some on here are making out, but he definitely ain't a wing back, and that's where he was predominantly used by Holloway.
          Last edited by Tarbie; 20-06-2017, 01:39 PM.

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          • Hove Ranger
            Silver Seat
            • Aug 2011
            • 4441

            #35
            Originally posted by stanistheman
            Wasn't Bidwell also highly rated by Brentford?
            yeah agree Stan. Signing players who are rated by their current fans is risky

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            • Hove Ranger
              Silver Seat
              • Aug 2011
              • 4441

              #36
              Originally posted by Tarbie
              I'm sure he could have been for us we just used him as a left back in a 4 man defence. I don't for a second think he's been as bad as some on here are making up, but he definitely ain't a wing back, and that's where he was predominantly used by Holloway.
              Agree Tarbs. Perhaps thats why he's being sold, Olly is sticking with 3 at the back..........or this is all just rumours with no substance

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              • Shania
                C Club
                • Apr 2010
                • 23695

                #37
                Him and Lynch was perhap not the best of combintions. Nor was Shodipo and Bidwell; Shodipo he did according to he Ollie not track back "partcalarly often.
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                • Norths
                  CCG
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 13067

                  #38
                  Hope we do stick with three at the back, but unfortunately for someone like Bidwell that means we need an upgrade in the position he'd be playing.

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                  • Tarbie
                    Gold Seat
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 8542

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Norths
                    Hope we do stick with three at the back, but unfortunately for someone like Bidwell that means we need an upgrade in the position he'd be playing.
                    Never liked 3 at the back and didn't believe it worked in English football..........then Chelsea went and won the league playing 3 at the back, so what do I know!

                    I think a lot of it has to do with personnel though. No point playing it unless you have centre halves smart enough to adapt, and players capable of both the offensive and defensive side of playing as a wing back.

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                    • dogsrrs
                      Gold Seat
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 6671

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Tarbie
                      Never liked 3 at the back and didn't believe it worked in English football..........then Chelsea went and won the league playing 3 at the back, so what do I know!

                      I think a lot of it has to do with personnel though. No point playing it unless you have centre halves smart enough to adapt, and players capable of both the offensive and defensive side of playing as a wing back.
                      Exactly mate Ollie is putting square pegs into round holes all our centre backs are best suited to a flat back four as you say not smart enough or good enough to play three at the back that also applies to our full backs , Ollie should have been able to see that without going on the losing runs by trying to make them do things that are alien to their ability

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                      • Norths
                        CCG
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 13067

                        #41
                        Originally posted by hooploft
                        Exactly mate Ollie is putting square pegs into round holes all our centre backs are best suited to a flat back four as you say not smart enough or good enough to play three at the back that also applies to our full backs , Ollie should have been able to see that without going on the losing runs by trying to make them do things that are alien to their ability
                        Our best run under Ollie came with us using the three at the back formation, with Hall moving between defence and midfield?

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                        • dogsrrs
                          Gold Seat
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 6671

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Norths
                          Our best run under Ollie came with us using the three at the back formation, with Hall moving between defence and midfield?
                          And what happened when wasn't fit

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                          • Norths
                            CCG
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 13067

                            #43
                            Originally posted by hooploft
                            And what happened when wasn't fit
                            Reverted to a flat back four or had Perch playing the Hall role?

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                            • dogsrrs
                              Gold Seat
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 6671

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Norths
                              Reverted to a flat back four or had Perch playing the Hall role?
                              Yeah after they didn't know they're arrs from they're elbow trying to revert back they arnt great in a flat back four either

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                              • LoftusRoadLad
                                W12 Seat
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 19582

                                #45
                                And Luongo too ??

                                Both men are thought to be part of Ian Holloway's plans going into the new season, and it's unlikely the club would be happy to lose the players to a divisional rival.

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