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  • James1979
    Silver Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 4857

    #31
    Why does Ned get so much grief. May not be captain material but I would have him and Lynch over Hall anyday. I do not get the love affair with Hall. To me, he is a weak link when he plays in the back 4.

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    • West Acton
      CCG
      • Dec 2009
      • 21475

      #32
      Hesitant is a hero figure

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      • nasser95
        Gold Seat
        • Dec 2012
        • 7216

        #33
        Originally posted by James1979
        Why does Ned get so much grief. May not be captain material but I would have him and Lynch over Hall anyday. I do not get the love affair with Hall. To me, he is a weak link when he plays in the back 4.
        I personally think he is the player who deserves to be captain here more than anyone given his longevity and (deserved) regular playtime. With that being said, I agree wholeheartedly with everything said here. Hall is not as comfortable on the ball as people seem to think and he's being bailed out positionally a lot by Ned's pace.
        "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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        • James1979
          Silver Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 4857

          #34
          Originally posted by nasser95
          I personally think he is the player who deserves to be captain here more than anyone given his longevity and (deserved) regular playtime. With that being said, I agree wholeheartedly with everything said here. Hall is not as comfortable on the ball as people seem to think and he's being bailed out positionally a lot by Ned's pace.
          Captain should be Lynch in my view. I wouldn't have Hall in the team, so def not captain for me

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          • nasser95
            Gold Seat
            • Dec 2012
            • 7216

            #35
            Originally posted by James1979
            Captain should be Lynch in my view. I wouldn't have Hall in the team, so def not captain for me
            I can see that, Lynch has history with it but Ned has the experience with the club and is (to my understanding) the locker room leader.
            "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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            • West Acton
              CCG
              • Dec 2009
              • 21475

              #36
              Am I wrong in thinking the players voted for Ned to be captain

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              • Shepherds Mush
                Platinum Seat
                • Nov 2012
                • 10325

                #37
                Originally posted by James1979
                Captain should be Lynch in my view. I wouldn't have Hall in the team, so def not captain for me
                Is that because he shouts?

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                • stanistheman
                  Platinum Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 11151

                  #38
                  Originally posted by 72bus
                  our midfield were non existent in the first half the bald fella run the game , i don't think ned had a bad game nor did hall. holloway needs to start players in their usual positions and stop playing them in systems they don't understand
                  Unfortunately Ollie does what Ollie does.
                  This is one of the main problems with him and unfortunately it is the players who get blamed.
                  But hey ho he does give passionate and some would say witty conferences which make all the difference to some fans.

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                  • stanistheman
                    Platinum Seat
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 11151

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Hubble
                    Am I right in thinking that at times - or at least for half of the first half - Pawel was playing right back and Perch was the DM? It certainly looked like that, and if it wasn't, where the hell was Perch during their move that led to the first goal? The defence looked all at sea on Saturday and Olly has to take a large part of the blame. I get the feeling he's a big admirer or managers like Conte and tries to emulate their tactics.... except he's no Conte. I wish he'd stop tinkering and stick to a system that works. He seems to get it right away, mainly, but at home it's a mess.

                    On the positive side, Luke Freeman looked fantastic and scored a screamer and the whole team performance was so much better second half. Also I like Smith, he won everything in the air and just needs decent service.
                    This 100% and as a result performances and results suffer hencecwhy I don't rate him and didnt want him back here.

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                    • stanistheman
                      Platinum Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 11151

                      #40
                      Originally posted by hoopsmanjake
                      Ned has been a big problem for years he's a donkey never a captain
                      I am tempted to agree to some extent. Not a donkey, but certainly not a good defender either as he is far too prone to errors Ala Karl Reddy.
                      His 1st season he was poor, but had the excuse of his dying mum which was perfectly understandable (apologies if that reads wrong I am trying to defend him for his performances).

                      He iscaverage at best and certainly not captain material.

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                      • Shepherds Mush
                        Platinum Seat
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 10325

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Hubble
                        Am I right in thinking that at times - or at least for half of the first half - Pawel was playing right back and Perch was the DM? It certainly looked like that, and if it wasn't, where the hell was Perch during their move that led to the first goal?.
                        For the first goal there were so many defensive mistakes that players out of position is almost irrelevant.

                        1. One of Luongo or Manning should have tackled their midfielder who got the ball through them to Brown with ease
                        2. Pavel should have followed Brown, who was standing next to him
                        3. Onuha should have got a better block on Browns pass to Wells
                        4. Perch, who was stood at CB, should have been watching Brown run unmarked into the middle and got closer to him to stop the return pass from Wells and the resulting shot

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                        • nasser95
                          Gold Seat
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 7216

                          #42
                          Originally posted by West Acton
                          Am I wrong in thinking the players voted for Ned to be captain
                          I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. As has been said by a few, myself included, Ned is very well respected at the club and is quite a smart bloke by all accounts. He's someone the players trust to be composed and of all our players, I don't think anyone else should be approaching the ref regarding incidents (which has become the captain's primary job). The captain should never be the best player, he should be the player who the rest of the locker room can look up to with regards to how they represent the club both on the pitch and off it. It's why Clint made such a good captain, why Ali would have made such a good captain and why Ned - in my opinion - is the best option we have right now.
                          "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                          • Alanwycombe
                            Silver Seat
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 2215

                            #43
                            At Reading three CBs worked a treat, with Hall only pushing forward when we had the ball. This gave our ever lightweight midfield some insurance. We should have kept that idea going not change it next game. Give it a chance. As has been posted many, many times, we have more serious problems than Nedum.

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                            • West Acton
                              CCG
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 21475

                              #44
                              Leader and captain today great performance. Calm when under pressure and superb moping up when they did get through

                              Captains performance great effort Ned

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                              • MattyRangers
                                Slimmer of The Year
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 24914

                                #45
                                Originally posted by West Acton
                                Leader and captain today great performance. Calm when under pressure and superb moping up when they did get through

                                Captains performance great effort Ned
                                Shhh less of the common sense west. Don't you recall, he's nervous and a terrible captain !!
                                You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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