What the fu ck have you done to our club Mr Fernandes?

[Tarbie]

He needs to sell the club to Amit or Red Bull but stay as a board member and football fan ..simple

Amit will never happen mate. He doesn't have the means to do it on his own and Lakshmi Mittal's net wealth has taken a pounding in the last 4 or 5 years.

As for Red Bull, they are in the market for an English club apparently. Red Bull Queens Park Rangers is a bit of a mouthful though!

[rickyranger]

Our fans are no different than any other club, but the reality is the vast majority are simply clueless. You only have to sit and listen at games to realize they are watching a completely different game to the one I watch.

Fernandes problem is he thinks like a fan, listens to the fans and gets caught up in the whole hero worship thing with managers and players alike. He certainly hasnt done it on purpose but has been caught in the headlights and poorly advised, if advised at all! What I would say it is a bit rich for some on here to continually critise him when there weren't many questioning his decision, even the latest ridiculous one of appointing Holloway and Bircham.

It wasnt long ago nearly all on here wanted 'Rangers' men in charge, when it matters more if you have experience and knowledge.

Start again with an experienced football man as chief executive, get in a decent manager, based on previous success and go from there. What I would say is that is easier said than done in our position, but one thing is for sure keep Holloway and Bircham and not only are we going backwards but are a complete laughing stock!!!!

[The General]

We need to be manage by a corporation not an individual

Red Bull want a London club .. They are a very successful company this would definatly work.

Surely the Chinease would want a London Club.

[The General]

Queen's Park Rangers Administration is also a mouthful

[Tarbie]

We need to be manage by a corporation not an individual

Red Bull want a London club .. They are a very successful company this would definatly work.

Surely the Chinease would want a London Club.

Careful what you wish for there mate!

[The General]

We could have Special fried rice instead of hot dogs and singha beer instead of Heineken at half time.

Change is sometimes good but not always ...maybe a happy finish after the game who knows

[Rangers77]

We could have Special fried rice instead of hot dogs and singha beer instead of Heineken at half time.

Change is sometimes good but not always ...maybe a happy finish after the game who knows

Half time, please.

[QueensParkPurgatory]

The concept of a manager being appointed who knows the club is complete tosh.
Clubs are bound to change in the time Holloway was gone. It only takes a few days to learn your way around a stadium and make friends with the tea lady. Passion for a club can on occasion lead to the inability to see their own shortcomings - casing point John Carver at Newcastle and Ian Holloway today. The last thing we need is more f*cking upheaval, but clearing the decks couldn't be more paramount. And anyone who believes relegation will lead to a rebuild is atrocious as QPR should have done the same thing going down a year ago. It's tougher to get out of divisions now more than ever, look at Sheffield United. It's high time QPR settle for a good few years in the Championship to build a team capable of going up and staying in the Premier League and establishing training facilities that will bring through these young players Holloway raves about. Wolves went down and came back stronger but that was without FFP and the club have good facilities. Fernandes has put in millions and has been swindled by the people who surrounds him. It's everyone's fault the club is in a mess and they need the fans more than ever to be singing in the grounds and not #####ing on forums like myself.

[hal9thou]

TF has had 1 major success in his life, turning around a failing airline buy implementing a low cost policy and offering tickets cheaper than anyone in the market. He also had significant help from the government to do this. Tony is not your standard entrepreneurial businessman, he's not a salesman. He was actually Richard Branson's CFO prior to Air Asia.

It's also worth mentioning that every business he has been involved with other than Air Asia has not been particularly successful!

Nice reality check Tarbs. People with an excellent business records often come to grief on the rocks of club ownership, never mind someone like TF who flew on the back of state investment.

[Tarbie]

Nice reality check Tarbs. People with an excellent business records often come to grief on the rocks of club ownership, never mind someone like TF who flew on the back of state investment.

Its a very different challenge running a successful football as well. TF's 1 success has been based around cutting costs, leveraging relationships and ultimately delivering a product that beats the rest of the market significantly on price. Not really sure there are that many lessons or skills that are transferable between the 2 business models.

[hal9thou]

Its a very different challenge running a successful football as well. TF's 1 success has been based around cutting costs, leveraging relationships and ultimately delivering a product that beats the rest of the market significantly on price. Not really sure there are that many lessons or skills that are transferable between the 2 business models.

aint that the truth.

[THE CAT]

We could have Special fried rice instead of hot dogs and singha beer instead of Heineken at half time.

Change is sometimes good but not always ...maybe a happy finish after the game who knows

Heineken, if only! Pure gnats #### Carlsberg in Ellerslie for us I`m afraid

Now Singha sounds good so bring on our Far Eastern friends!

[THE CAT]

Question - how much deeper can something run than the owner? To elaborate on the theory you have above?

IMO the owner is the top of the tree, if the employees do not deliver than the owner needs to look at who he is employing and the methods he has in place which are supposed to make them succeed.

You cannot defend TF on any part of this - and it's quite cringeworthy to see that people are still intent on trying to.
In what other business or football club would someone other than the owner get blamed for taking over a promising well run business/football club, and over seeing a gradual decline in 6 years of not hitting targets, accumulated debt, and dropping sales.

Yes but if you put what you think are capable people in charge, which to be fair we all did, and they do not perform to anywhere near the levels required then it is somewhat out of your hands.

Obviously he has made mistakes but I think many people think that if Fernandes leaves then we will be snapped up by another rich mystery buyer.

Think you will all be in for a shock as can't realistically see that happening and would see a very bleak future ahead

I know it's tough at the moment but don't think that getting rid of the owners will do anything other than set us up for a huge fall

[dogsrrs]

Yes but if you put what you think are capable people in charge, which to be fair we all did, and they do not perform to anywhere near the levels required then it is somewhat out of your hands.

Obviously he has made mistakes but I think many people think that if Fernandes leaves then we will be snapped up by another rich mystery buyer.

Think you will all be in for a shock as can't realistically see that happening and would see a very bleak future ahead

I know it's tough at the moment but don't think that getting rid of the owners will do anything other than set us up for a huge fall

Spot on

[Tarbie]

Yes but if you put what you think are capable people in charge, which to be fair we all did, and they do not perform to anywhere near the levels required then it is somewhat out of your hands.

Obviously he has made mistakes but I think many people think that if Fernandes leaves then we will be snapped up by another rich mystery buyer.

Think you will all be in for a shock as can't realistically see that happening and would see a very bleak future ahead

I know it's tough at the moment but don't think that getting rid of the owners will do anything other than set us up for a huge fall

And do you see something other than a "bleak future" under the current regime? Personally I don't. It's been a pretty steady decline since Fernandes took over!