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  • Hubble
    Postmodernist
    • Jan 2013
    • 5616

    #196
    Originally posted by Pinkie
    We`ve? you mean the governments benefitted hugely with paying poorly and yet filling postions! hubble keep youre comment to yourself at the end of youre speech, personally think youre spouting aswell as it goes, if positions are low pay employers ie the government will struggle to fill positions, then pay would have to be increased to intice skilled english/british people, but thats not needed as along comes cheap labour with no complaints from abroad! fact
    What?

    Trying to decipher your post I think you're blaming migrants for being willing to do poorly paid jobs? Is that right?

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    • gaza09
      Bronze Seat
      • Apr 2009
      • 970

      #197
      Originally posted by Hubble
      What?

      Trying to decipher your post I think you're blaming migrants for being willing to do poorly paid jobs? Is that right?
      No he's rightly pointing out they drive the wages down

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      • Pinkie
        Silver Seat
        • Apr 2016
        • 4664

        #198
        Originally posted by Hubble
        What?

        Trying to decipher your post I think you're blaming migrants for being willing to do poorly paid jobs? Is that right?

        Im going on this we should be greatful to foreigners that fill alot of british jobs in nhs as we would be sunk type of daft comments by you, we survived years ago, have already said the only reason there doing these jobs is cos the pays disrespectful towards the job that what it should be, hence most of the jobs filled by foreigners! its not rocket science!!
        http://soundcloud.com/pinkie2

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        • Hubble
          Postmodernist
          • Jan 2013
          • 5616

          #199
          Originally posted by gaza09
          No he's rightly pointing out they drive the wages down
          They don't drive wages down, the people who pay the crap wages do that (it's a market economy). Although that is of course the nature of capitalism. Blaming the migrants for low paid jobs is putting the cart before the horse. Not a good argument. At all. Blame the neoliberals, if you want to blame someone. Or Thatcher.

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          • Hove Ranger
            Silver Seat
            • Aug 2011
            • 4441

            #200
            Originally posted by Hubble
            They don't drive wages down, the people who pay the crap wages do that (it's a market economy). Although that is of course the nature of capitalism. Blaming the migrants for low paid jobs is putting the cart before the horse. Not a good argument. At all. Blame the neoliberals, if you want to blame someone. Or Thatcher.
            Blame Jimmy
            Last edited by Hove Ranger; 01-11-2016, 07:12 PM.

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            • Pinkie
              Silver Seat
              • Apr 2016
              • 4664

              #201
              Originally posted by Hubble
              They don't drive wages down, the people who pay the crap wages do that (it's a market economy). Although that is of course the nature of capitalism. Blaming the migrants for low paid jobs is putting the cart before the horse. Not a good argument. At all. Blame the neoliberals, if you want to blame someone. Or Thatcher.

              Haha had to laugh obviously the people who pay the wages would have to increase the pay if they needed to fill positions,but heyho they dont have to, as the cheap labours there! anyway was just quoting way back about you coming out with how this country would crumble without the foreign labour which is rubbish!
              http://soundcloud.com/pinkie2

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              • Hubble
                Postmodernist
                • Jan 2013
                • 5616

                #202
                Originally posted by Pinkie
                Im going on this we should be greatful to foreigners that fill alot of british jobs in nhs as we would be sunk type of daft comments by you, we survived years ago, have already said the only reason there doing these jobs is cos the pays disrespectful towards the job that what it should be, hence most of the jobs filled by foreigners! its not rocket science!!
                I'm sorry, I find your thinking extremely convoluted Pinkie. What has what happened years ago got to do with it? Perhaps you should be asking how and why we have the situation we have now, and who benefits (cui bono)? Then you might start to find out the answers.

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                • Hubble
                  Postmodernist
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 5616

                  #203
                  Originally posted by Pinkie
                  Haha had to laugh obviously the people who pay the wages would have to increase the pay if they needed to fill positions,but heyho they dont have to, as the cheap labours there! anyway was just quoting way back about you coming out with how this country would crumble without the foreign labour which is rubbish!
                  I'm sorry (again) but you don't seem to understand how the market works. It's about who creates the market and the market conditions. The workers - on all sides - are just pawns in this game. Anyway, it is slightly exasperating discussing this with you. So I shall leave it to others. God bless

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                  • Pinkie
                    Silver Seat
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 4664

                    #204
                    Well i find youre comment about greatful to foreign labour as pathetic tbh hubble but each to there own
                    http://soundcloud.com/pinkie2

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                    • Tarbie
                      Gold Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 8542

                      #205
                      Originally posted by Pinkie
                      Haha had to laugh obviously the people who pay the wages would have to increase the pay if they needed to fill positions,but heyho they dont have to, as the cheap labours there! anyway was just quoting way back about you coming out with how this country would crumble without the foreign labour which is rubbish!
                      I'm pretty sure the country would grind to a halt without foreign labour. There would be huge skills shortages in a number of sectors......including the healthcare sector which you've already mentioned is something that is very important to you and your family. Of course, given time, the UK would be smart enough and resilient enough to get through it but if you kicked the foreign labour out tomorrow, just about every sector would be shafted.

                      And before you question how I can say this with confidence, I'm a Regional Director of a recruitment agency. We place foreigners in the UK and we also place British professionals abroad so I've got a pretty good understanding of this subject!
                      Last edited by Tarbie; 01-11-2016, 07:25 PM.

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                      • Pinkie
                        Silver Seat
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 4664

                        #206
                        Is that a agency for workers? what a farce agencies are, grabbing middle men vcould do with axeing them for a start!
                        http://soundcloud.com/pinkie2

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                        • Tarbie
                          Gold Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 8542

                          #207
                          Originally posted by Pinkie
                          Is that a agency for workers? what a farce agencies are, grabbing middle men vcould do with axeing them for a start!
                          I help companies find hard to find individuals Pinkie. Senior guys, niche technical guys etc. I don't move people around on mass or work with unskilled laborers or anything like that.

                          Not too fussed if you think it's a pointless profession to be brutally honest mate. As long as my clients to continue see value in what my company do then I'll be just fine!

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                          • Rangers77
                            Platinum Seat
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 11808

                            #208
                            Originally posted by Tarbie
                            I help companies find hard to find individuals Pinkie. Senior guys, niche technical guys etc. I don't move people around on mass or work with unskilled laborers or anything like that.
                            S
                            Not too fussed if you think it's a pointless profession to be brutally honest mate. As long as my clients to continue see value in what my company do then I'll be just fine!
                            Any chance you can help Les out, Tarbie?

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                            • Tarbie
                              Gold Seat
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 8542

                              #209
                              Originally posted by Rangers77
                              Any chance you can help Les out, Tarbie?
                              You know, I've often thought about looking into become a licensed football agent. Totally different kettle of fish from what I do though. I mostly search for Sales, Senior Technical and Director level guys from an IT or Telcos background!

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                              • Jimmy Floyd Rabbit
                                Gold Seat
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 8957

                                #210
                                You've only got to walk down Uxbridge Rd of a match day, any day actually to realise what a complete shite hole it is.

                                If that's integration we're all f%cked.

                                Economic migrants. Simple.

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