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  • corbray
    Silver Seat
    • Feb 2016
    • 3030

    #31
    some of the best midfielders of all time barely scored too.

    don't think mass is the best CM in the league anyway, but he does have the potential to be ... atm though i think hourihane is the best CM in the league, hes doing a great job for them so far

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    • James1979
      Silver Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 4857

      #32
      Some of the best defensive mids barely scored. Not sure is agree that this can apply to others. Who've you got in mind?

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      • Awin
        Silver Seat
        • Jun 2012
        • 2951

        #33
        Emmanuel petit 16 in 385 games

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        • James1979
          Silver Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 4857

          #34
          Defensive midfielder no? Nothing like luongo as a player

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          • Hove Ranger
            Silver Seat
            • Aug 2011
            • 4441

            #35
            He's magic you know......Massimo Luongo

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            • corbray
              Silver Seat
              • Feb 2016
              • 3030

              #36
              Originally posted by James1979
              Some of the best defensive mids barely scored. Not sure is agree that this can apply to others. Who've you got in mind?
              xabi alonso is one and xavi and iniesta never really scored much about from a season or two.

              then you've got guys who had respectable careers who barely scored too like modric, nicky butt and tony hibbert. just a list off the top of my head but there's probably a fair few others

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              • Shepherds Mush
                Platinum Seat
                • Nov 2012
                • 10325

                #37
                Originally posted by corbray
                xabi alonso is one and xavi and iniesta never really scored much about from a season or two.

                then you've got guys who had respectable careers who barely scored too like modric, nicky butt and tony hibbert. just a list off the top of my head but there's probably a fair few others
                Tony Hibbert the right back?

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                • Hove Ranger
                  Silver Seat
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 4441

                  #38
                  Tony Hibbert > Luka Modric

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                  • corbray
                    Silver Seat
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 3030

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
                    Tony Hibbert the right back?
                    my bad i meant leon osman haha

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                    • nasser95
                      Gold Seat
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 7216

                      #40
                      In any case, the point is that I don't think a centre midfield will be remembered for being a goalscorer. He'll be remembered for his tackling, his movement, his passing and his intelligence on the pitch. For me, Mass has all those attributes and is very consistent at applying them. No, he doesn't score for us, but that doesn't make him a less effective midfielder. For me, IMO and any other way I can put across that it's my opinion, Mass is the only midfielder in the league to display those attributes in abudance on a regular basis, even if he doesn't score as much as Hourihane or Shelvey, he's more well rounded than they are and that's what makes a centre mid quality.
                      "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                      • dogsrrs
                        Gold Seat
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 6671

                        #41
                        And is very consistent in applying them ,. Give over for Christ sake he is a player you see that does something and you think oh well played then for a long period you forget he is there mind that applies to all our recent signings

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                        • Ginger Ninja
                          W12 Seat
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 17458

                          #42
                          How anyone can expect goalscoring to be Massimo's main aim when he plays primarily as a holding midfielder is beyond me. He's been top class for us so far this season and imo should be our first choice CM. Not overly sure what Sandro has done to deserve the title of best CM at the club? Because he's Brazilian? Or because he scored v Rochdale and Sunderland in the cup? Genuine question, because if he wanted to play, he would be.
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                          • nasser95
                            Gold Seat
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 7216

                            #43
                            Originally posted by dogsrrs
                            And is very consistent in applying them ,. Give over for Christ sake he is a player you see that does something and you think oh well played then for a long period you forget he is there mind that applies to all our recent signings
                            Again, his off the ball work and his ball winning ability is what makes him special alongside his movement with the ball. But whatever, who would you say is our best and the best in this league?
                            "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                            • Awin
                              Silver Seat
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 2951

                              #44
                              Simon barker (33 in 315) and Ian Holloway (4 in 147) both played the roll for us, often with little credit.

                              Neither of them scored many but both were vital.

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                              • bakes8
                                Silver Seat
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 4561

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Awin
                                Simon barker (33 in 315) and Ian Holloway (4 in 147) both played the roll for us, often with little credit.

                                Neither of them scored many but both were vital.
                                Little credit??? Did you miss the entire 1990's. Both were wonderful servants for the club, and treated as such.

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