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"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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Nas, I have been going since the late 70's and watched some crap but at least all of them teams with their limitations had a go. This outfit is something I do not recognise and enjoy at all.Comment
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Ah so now it's let's not blame the players at all , and totally blame the manager
I don't know whether your easily pleased or habitually addicted to look to argue there's the managers assistant there's the manager there's the D o F there's a board of directors they all should be aware of what they are selling and not turn a blind eye to thinking if your true fans you'll accept the lack of entertainment And give us your and your moneyLast edited by dogsrrs; 17-09-2016, 08:26 PM.Comment
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wtf is this first sentence... You're blaming the management totally... we know these players are better than they're performing, therefore I put a good proportion of the blame on the players as well.Ah so now it's let's not blame the players at all , and blame the manager 100%
I don't know whether your easily pleased or habitually addicted to look to argue there's the managers assistant there's the manager there's the D o F there's a board of directors they all should be aware of what they are selling and not turn a blind to thinking if your true fans you'll accept the lack of entertainment And give us your and your money"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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So you think the players just go out and do their own thing the follow instructions and if they can't or don't understand what's asked of the then give them something they they do understand or can do the club should know what limitations they have when they sign themComment
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I didn't say they were 100% to blame, no one is 100% to blame, but there's a good proportion of blame to go to them. How can people think it's so black and white that it's either all the management's fault or all the players' fault?"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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Could it be the players have downed tools for this manager? Would not be the first time that has happened to someone. Years ago fans got managers the sack now the players do.Comment
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Your so interested in disagreeing you dont see I said it's the managers assistant it's the manager it's the D o f it's board that are allowing dross to be sold to the fansComment
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Collectivly from Fernandes to Ferdinand to JFH they are all to blame. Fernandes for me has to take the majority as after 5 years in charge we should be in a much better shape than we are.Comment
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And you're so interested in ignoring what I'm saying that you fail to see I said management, that includes everyone from top to bottom in the higher up staff. But please, continue to argue away how the players aren't at all to blame, but everyone else is."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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They need to look at themselves for sure but having seen their reaction in the last 3 games when conceeding a goal they look like a bunch who have downed tolls for this guy. Ultimately the whole mess from top to bottom is down to one man and that is Tony Fernandes. QPR ####ing Aeroplanes to Ji Sung Park to 150k a week on 2 goalkeepers to FFP hanging over us. Look at Swansea who went up with us in 2011 and look at us!Comment
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