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  • jmelanie
    Gold Seat
    • Aug 2011
    • 7525

    #46
    Originally posted by Hove Ranger
    Agree with that. Some of the football was blinding. What would you say is success for the current team this season?
    Turning up.

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    • Rangers77
      Platinum Seat
      • Aug 2012
      • 11808

      #47
      Want the three points, so no. Want to win. Largely so we can press on competitively this season. But also because of the fella's travelling up to Huddersfield. But the performance is all important. If it's the usual s hit Jimmy serves up, and we lose, losing 5-0 rather than 2-0 might help prompt the change in manager needed.

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      • dogsrrs
        Gold Seat
        • Mar 2013
        • 6671

        #48
        Loosing is never what to hope for . Should the Dof or the board tell JFH he can afford to loose three or four but the football has to change ? I'd take that
        Last edited by dogsrrs; 17-09-2016, 09:51 AM.

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        • stanistheman
          Platinum Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 11151

          #49
          Originally posted by Hove Ranger
          You talk about dull, negative run of the mill side and then say we missed out on Pulis? Would he have improved our style of play?
          No but he would have kept QPR up for that season and perhaps the next one. QPR would then have been able to attract a better manager after that as Palace have done
          Besides, I would put up with dull football in the Premiership for a season or two, but not in the Championship where the opposition is of a much lower standard and there really is no excuse to play this way.

          To rephrase this, dull negative football against the likes of Man City Man Utd Liverpool Chelsea Arsenal & Tottenham in the Premiership or the same crap (or worse) agaibst the likes of Preston Blackburn Barnsey Cardiff Wigan. There is a huge difference and if yiu cant see that wel...
          Last edited by stanistheman; 17-09-2016, 05:49 PM.

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          • stanistheman
            Platinum Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 11151

            #50
            Originally posted by Ginger Ninja
            Can't call yourself a fan if you want us to lose just to get rid of the manager.
            If it leads to a better manager being appointed who can get results, then yes it is worth it.asit.ay Norwich fan if sacking Gunn and appointing Lambert was wirth it to win back to back promotions and surving in the Premiership. Or sacking the manger before they appointed Alex Neil who then took them up the table and into the premiership again.

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            • stanistheman
              Platinum Seat
              • Mar 2009
              • 11151

              #51
              Originally posted by Hove Ranger
              He wasn't exactly successful though, think we finished 14/15th under him and had a general even amount of results (wins, draws, losses), or are fans not bothered by success? (This isn't a dig at you Ginge)
              He took over in late November and had to build a side. What more did you expect from him.

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              • Martinmalta
                Silver Seat
                • Apr 2012
                • 2507

                #52
                The problem is that we will get rid of JFH. We then put someone who may improve the results temporarily. Up come next season and after seven or ten games we find ourselves again in the same situation! This happened with NW; MH; HR; CR and now JFH. And what progress had been made so far....none. We're worst, much worst then we were during the last four or five seasons.

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                • stanistheman
                  Platinum Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 11151

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Martinmalta
                  The problem is that we will get rid of JFH. We then put someone who may improve the results temporarily. Up come next season and after seven or ten games we find ourselves again in the same situation! This happened with NW; MH; HR; CR and now JFH. And what progress had been made so far....none. We're worst, much worst then we were during the last four or five seasons.
                  But we are not making any progress under JFH - in fact going backwards - and he still insists on playing one up front even though it clearly isnt working.
                  It works at some clubs because they have the forward and supportibg attackerd who can play that system.
                  Polter, Washington etc with suppor from Shodipo, Chery El Khayati and so on, cannot play this way successfully, as results and performances as well as lack of goals have shown over the last 10 months.

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                  • stanistheman
                    Platinum Seat
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 11151

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Martinmalta
                    The problem is that we will get rid of JFH. We then put someone who may improve the results temporarily. Up come next season and after seven or ten games we find ourselves again in the same situation! This happened with NW; MH; HR; CR and now JFH. And what progress had been made so far....none. We're worst, much worst then we were during the last four or five seasons.
                    But we are not making any progress under JFH - in fact going backwards - and he still insists on playing one up front even though it clearly isnt working.
                    It works at some clubs because they have the forward and supporting attacker who can play that system.
                    Polter, Washington etc with suppor from Shodipo, Chery El Khayati and so on, cannot play this way successfully, as results and performances as well as lack of goals have shown over the last 10 months.

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                    • amusant
                      Bronze Seat
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 288

                      #55
                      Paul Clement is assistant coach at Bayern - I'll bet they wouldn't stand in his way if he wanted to come to LR. He was treated pretty poorly by Derby. I'll bet he'd relish the chance to show how wrong they were.

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                      • Hove Ranger
                        Silver Seat
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 4441

                        #56
                        Originally posted by stanistheman
                        No but he would have kept QPR up for that season and perhaps the next one. QPR would then have been able to attract a better manager after that as Palace have done
                        Besides, I would put up with dull football in the Premiership for a season or two, but not in the Championship where the opposition is of a much lower standard and there really is no excuse to play this way.

                        To rephrase this, dull negative football against the likes of Man City Man Utd Liverpool Chelsea Arsenal & Tottenham in the Premiership or the same crap (or worse) agaibst the likes of Preston Blackburn Barnsey Cardiff Wigan. There is a huge difference and if yiu cant see that wel...
                        Thats fairly obvious, I just wasnt able to to interpret that from your previous post. Can't imagine how

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                        • stanistheman
                          Platinum Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 11151

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Hove Ranger
                          Thats fairly obvious, I just wasnt able to to interpret that from your previous post. Can't imagine how
                          That's probably becuase i have stated it many times before,that Pulis would be just a stop gap appointment for 1 or 2 full seasons to establish QPR ad a Premiership club ( he doesn't do relegation).
                          Besides is there any reason why QPR should play this dull, negative contain the opposition crap football in this league.

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