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  • Bill
    Silver Seat
    • Dec 2013
    • 4490

    #16
    Originally posted by rodman
    Bumped into a fellow fan in a shop this morning and got talking all things QPR and ultimately got round to discussing JFH.

    He said he would like to see us get stuffed tomorrow if it meant getting rid of Jimmy whereas I find it difficult to accept any defeat no matter what the circumstances.

    So my question to all those who would like to see Jimmy gone is, would you take a proper tonking tomorrow if it meant another nail in Jimmy's coffin.
    No the club is always larger than any employee they come and go

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    • Hove Ranger
      Silver Seat
      • Aug 2011
      • 4441

      #17
      Well said Bill

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      • Stanley
        Guest
        • Mar 2009
        • 23693

        #18
        Originally posted by Hove Ranger
        He wasn't exactly successful though, think we finished 14/15th under him and had a general even amount of results (wins, draws, losses), or are fans not bothered by success? (This isn't a dig at you Ginge)
        Depends how you define success. Di Canio was a success if your yardstick is to be entertained. We played some lovely football under him at times in true QPR tradition, with the No 10 Buzsaky in his prime. He was a popular manager with the fans too exactly because of his attacking playing style. Nice song we had for him to boot.

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        • Hove Ranger
          Silver Seat
          • Aug 2011
          • 4441

          #19
          Originally posted by Stanley
          Depends how you define success. Di Canio was a success if your yardstick is to be entertained. We played some lovely football under him at times in true QPR tradition, with the No 10 Buzsaky in his prime. He was a popular manager with the fans too exactly because of his attacking playing style. Nice song we had for him to boot.
          That's why I asked the question Stan. Success usually means winning in football. So you would be happy with mid table if we played entertaining football?

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          • Stanley
            Guest
            • Mar 2009
            • 23693

            #20
            Originally posted by Hove Ranger
            you would be happy with mid table if we played entertaining football?
            Absolutely I would, if it was a choice between proper entertaining football and the tedium JFH is currently serving up.

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            • Hove Ranger
              Silver Seat
              • Aug 2011
              • 4441

              #21
              Originally posted by Stanley
              Absolutely I would, if it was a choice between proper entertaining football and the tedium JFH is currently serving up.
              Fair enough. Is that on a consistent basis? I.e. generally promotion or winning isn't a stickler for you

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              • Stanley
                Guest
                • Mar 2009
                • 23693

                #22
                Originally posted by Hove Ranger
                Fair enough. Is that on a consistent basis? I.e. generally promotion or winning isn't a stickler for you
                Yes, on a consistent basis. Getting the fans on their feet and entertaining them for their hard-earned pay. Flair players, free-flowing, fluid and creative football - all in the finest of Queens Park Rangers traditions, in the days when we were everyone's favourite 2nd club.

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                • Shepherds Mush
                  Platinum Seat
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 10325

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Stanley
                  Absolutely I would, if it was a choice between proper entertaining football and the tedium JFH is currently serving up.
                  I get what you are saying but out of interest would you rather watch Wales or European Champions Portugal ?

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                  • Stanley
                    Guest
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 23693

                    #24
                    Well shoot me, as I'm biased. It was the style of football I was raised on by my team, going all the way back to Dave Sexton. With others it was Jago and Stock before him.

                    It's the club I fell in love with as a kid. I literally hero-worshiped those players.

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                    • Hove Ranger
                      Silver Seat
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 4441

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Stanley
                      Yes, on a consistent basis. Getting the fans on their feet and entertaining them for their hard-earned pay. Flair players, free-flowing, fluid and creative football - all in the finest of Queens Park Rangers traditions, in the days when we were everyone's favourite 2nd club.
                      You sound like a manager looking for Jimmy's job

                      I am curious if that's the case across the fan base and then if the board are aware of this. Maybe that's the fundamental reason where they are going wrong. Too much focus on promotion rather than playing entertaining football

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                      • Stanley
                        Guest
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 23693

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Hove Ranger
                        Too much focus on promotion rather than playing entertaining football
                        That's bang on the money mate, in my humble opining. It's only my personal one though. Wouldn't have a clue if I'm in the majority or not.

                        All I can tell you is when I was watching that Newcastle game I was literally seething and screaming, it was that painful to endure. It was such a poor indictment on how far we've turned our back on our roots as a club. But I'm a traditionalist though in how I think the game should be played, and probably quite a purist in that regard. That's my cross to bear. I know and accept others have a different perspective.

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                        • Hove Ranger
                          Silver Seat
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 4441

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Stanley
                          That's bang on the money mate, in my humble opining. It's only my personal one though. Wouldn't have a clue if I'm in the majority or not.

                          All I can tell you is when I was watching that Newcastle game I was literally seething and screaming, it was that painful to endure. It was such a poor indictment on how far we've turned our back on our roots as a club. But I'm a traditionalist though in how I think the game should be played, and probably quite a purist in that regard. That's my cross to bear. I know and accept others have a different perspective.
                          You may be onto something mate. Sounds like a lot of fans are in a similar boat. The only criticism is that modern football is too money orientated and with that brings a focus on promotion. Is it sustainable in modern football to focus more on entertaining football rather than promotion? Obviously the 2 aren't antithetical but is it realistic?

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                          • Stanley
                            Guest
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 23693

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Hove Ranger
                            You may be onto something mate. Sounds like a lot of fans are in a similar boat. The only criticism is that modern football is too money orientated and with that brings a focus on promotion. Is it sustainable in modern football to focus more on entertaining football rather than promotion? Obviously the 2 aren't antithetical but is it realistic?
                            Yep, well that's the $64,000 question, isn't it?

                            I guess I was a bit spoilt by growing up with the QPR of old. In recent times Warnock renewed my faith in our tradition though, which was heart-warming to see - and proof that it can still be applied to the modern game for a smaller club like ours, at least at Championship level...The Leicester story is a fantastic one too.

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                            • Bill
                              Silver Seat
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 4490

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Stanley
                              Well shoot me, as I'm biased. It was the style of football I was raised on by my team, going all the way back to Dave Sexton. With others it was Jago and Stock before him.

                              It's the club I fell in love with as a kid. I literally hero-worshiped those players.
                              Likewise from the days of Alec Stock we were known for attractive football and drew fans
                              in accordingly

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                              • westsussexranger
                                Silver Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 1317

                                #30
                                Give him the season, given the teams in the division are we really up there with the ones in with a shout of promotion? I'd say no. If he can't establish a decent playing style this year then let him go at the end of the season
                                i supported qpr in the glory days when chris kiwomya and michael ngonge played up front

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