Chery discussion

[72bus]

we can't carry players at this level and not get found out , chery , yeni ,pawel ,hardly making an impact on the the game

[1973 ranger]

Bill JFH was and did get results with the same said turds so not sure what your point is? Replacing him was supposed to bring improvement.

[bakes8]

I agree, but people thinking that's Luongo's job when you can see by watching him it isn't. Chery has been poor, hence the lack of service, criticising chery is absolutely warranted because ultimately, he's the creative hook that Luongo releases the ball to and then he plays it to the strikers or wingers. He's not doing that so we aren't creative. But that shouldn't be something the players behind him get criticism. Today for example, Luongo made more successful tackles (4) than anyone on the pitch, made 1 successful dribble (no one else made more), only Perch had more touches of the ball than him (75 touches) and no one on the pitch played more successful passes than him. Oh, and passes targetted into the final third? Well... only Chery played more successful ones than him on the pitch today (19).

So he's doing his job.. it's just that the players in front of him aren't doing a good enough job. Today for example, Chery only made one key pass, which is pi5 5 poor, made one successful dribble out of only 2 attempted, which is again, poor for a creative hook. There's not much players like Hall and Luongo can do if the guy they're supposed to give the ball to in order to produce some magic, isn't capable of doing that.

And going 442 won't fix that, because our strikers don't know how to create anything for themselves and are reliant on creativity behind them, hence why they've not scored when Chery's been so poor.

Sorry mate. Mad was pony today as has been too frequent this season. And if u think that a central midfielders game isn't to create then ill leave the conversation there bud. He's a luxury player, slow and cumbersome and needs to take control of games. He ain't doing it for me.

[Hove Ranger]

My personal thoughts are that being a number 10 is something no one would want to be at QPR if they just read this forum. Every number 10 that comes here is gonna be compared to Adel that one season or to Stan Bowles. They've got no chance with a fanbase that is willing to turn on everyone faster than anything I've ever seen.

Doubt they would read this forum

[Bill]

Bill that is why he is paid to work out how to improve the players and get the best out of them. The fact he has won 1 game and scored 3 in 6 is not anyone elses issue but Ollies.

You cant polish turds

[Bill]

You make my point!!!! Yet Holloway continues to select him although he offers nothing. Is that not the managers choice and therefore his fault or am i missing something??

He is supposed to be our playmaker so who do you suggest instead

[West Acton]

It was not that long ago some posters were saying he was our best player and yet now he is crap and in my eyes always has
been.

Totally overrated like a lot of the other crap Ferdinand has brought in

Not me I outted him last season but I was told I was wrong

[Bill]

My personal thoughts are that being a number 10 is something no one would want to be at QPR if they just read this forum. Every number 10 that comes here is gonna be compared to Adel that one season or to Stan Bowles. They've got no chance with a fanbase that is willing to turn on everyone faster than anything I've ever seen.

Very True

[West Acton]

and yet you expect Ih to pu it right in six games

You make my point!!!! Yet Holloway continues to select him although he offers nothing. Is that not the managers choice and therefore his fault or am i missing something??

[nasser95]

It was not that long ago some posters were saying he was our best player and yet now he is crap and in my eyes always has
been.

Totally overrated like a lot of the other crap Ferdinand has brought in

My personal thoughts are that being a number 10 is something no one would want to be at QPR if they just read this forum. Every number 10 that comes here is gonna be compared to Adel that one season or to Stan Bowles. They've got no chance with a fanbase that is willing to turn on everyone faster than anything I've ever seen.

[1973 ranger]

Bill I have never rated the bloke and can go way back with that opinion so never our best player. The managers job is to get the best out of what he has and pounts and goals scored says Ollie is failing on both fronts.

[Bill]

It was not that long ago some posters were saying he was our best player and yet now he is crap and in my eyes always has
been.

Totally overrated like a lot of the other crap Ferdinand has brought in

[1973 ranger]

Bill that is why he is paid to work out how to improve the players and get the best out of them. The fact he has won 1 game and scored 3 in 6 is not anyone elses issue but Ollies.

[Bill]

He was s hit last season and s hit this one. We slated Ramsey but give him credit he hardly played him he could see he was lightweight

and yet you expect Ih to pu it right in six games

[nasser95]

Nas our strikers would get better service in a travelodge.

I agree, but people thinking that's Luongo's job when you can see by watching him it isn't. Chery has been poor, hence the lack of service, criticising chery is absolutely warranted because ultimately, he's the creative hook that Luongo releases the ball to and then he plays it to the strikers or wingers. He's not doing that so we aren't creative. But that shouldn't be something the players behind him get criticism. Today for example, Luongo made more successful tackles (4) than anyone on the pitch, made 1 successful dribble (no one else made more), only Perch had more touches of the ball than him (75 touches) and no one on the pitch played more successful passes than him. Oh, and passes targetted into the final third? Well... only Chery played more successful ones than him on the pitch today (19).

So he's doing his job.. it's just that the players in front of him aren't doing a good enough job. Today for example, Chery only made one key pass, which is pi5 5 poor, made one successful dribble out of only 2 attempted, which is again, poor for a creative hook. There's not much players like Hall and Luongo can do if the guy they're supposed to give the ball to in order to produce some magic, isn't capable of doing that.

And going 442 won't fix that, because our strikers don't know how to create anything for themselves and are reliant on creativity behind them, hence why they've not scored when Chery's been so poor.