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  • Rebel R's
    King of Pessimism
    • Mar 2009
    • 12266

    #16
    I agree apart from the get rid of Conor, first we need at least 3 senior strikers ,at the moment we have only 2,secondly we wouldn't get back the money we paid for him but most importantly I wouldn't write him off quite yet,he may still come good

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    • nasser95
      Gold Seat
      • Dec 2012
      • 7216

      #17
      Originally posted by Brian Wilson
      Polters goal against Leeds didn't come from a setpiece or did it?
      Already had this point, but Polter's goal came from an Onuoha free kick in the last minute. There was one touch after the free kick before the goal so technically it is a set piece goal.
      "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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      • nasser95
        Gold Seat
        • Dec 2012
        • 7216

        #18
        Also, people don't see a correlation between creativity and penalty winning? If you're winning penalties, you're getting into dangerous positions through creativity...
        "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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        • nasser95
          Gold Seat
          • Dec 2012
          • 7216

          #19
          Originally posted by Greengrass
          Out of curiosity, who says so?
          whoscored.com have it listed as a set piece goal, their data is from Opta so yea... Opta I guess.
          "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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          • Greg1882
            Silver Seat
            • May 2012
            • 4704

            #20
            Bloody hell who cares how we score? We scored loads of pens during our promotion season. We are only 3 games in and we've scored 7 league goals. Not bad for a team that many experts on here predicted would struggle for goals. We also hit the post twice against leeds(both from open play) and the woodwork again last night. I'm sure if we give it more than 270 minutes the goals from Brazilian style open play will flow. I seem to remember people pointing out that we never scored from corners and set pieces before, can't win.

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            • nanocopic
              Silver Seat
              • Oct 2015
              • 1725

              #21
              Nasser, do you know how many set pieces goals we scored last season? As can't remember us being very good from corners or free kicks.

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              • nasser95
                Gold Seat
                • Dec 2012
                • 7216

                #22
                Originally posted by nanocopic
                Nasser, do you know how many set pieces goals we scored last season? As can't remember us being very good from corners or free kicks.
                So we actually scored 15 set piece goals (remember Faurlin got all but one assist from corners) as well as 3 penalties. This season we're already on 3 set piece goals and 4 penalties.
                "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                • Hove Ranger
                  Silver Seat
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 4441

                  #23
                  Getting penalties is a sign that we are causing danger when attacking. Have all been stonewallers. Not a concern for me.

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                  • Shania
                    C Club
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 23695

                    #24
                    Originally posted by West London is Rss
                    I think you need to understand Stan that this team is a work in progress, it's no-where near the finished article - JFH has made no secret of the fact he wants us to control games more and be more attacking, and that he wants to bring a couple more attacking players into the club to help us with this.

                    To control games you need to start with being solid and have foundations in place. He has done that IMO, and that is the stage we are currently at.
                    A few more players in through the door and we'll be closer to the finished article.

                    Quite a few on here doesn´t seem to understand that....
                    QPR
                    Best team in the world
                    Sort of

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                    • LoftusRoadLad
                      W12 Seat
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 19582

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Hove Ranger
                      Getting penalties is a sign that we are causing danger when attacking. Have all been stonewallers. Not a concern for me.
                      Chery and Polter are forming a lethal partnership...

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                      • Stanley
                        Guest
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 23693

                        #26
                        Originally posted by nasser95
                        Also, people don't see a correlation between creativity and penalty winning? If you're winning penalties, you're getting into dangerous positions through creativity...
                        Originally posted by Hove Ranger
                        Getting penalties is a sign that we are causing danger when attacking. Have all been stonewallers. Not a concern for me.
                        Exactly. We're definitely creating chances. The problem with the 1st half last night is that Luongo and Henry were both playing deep and thus Chery was getting starved of possession and Polter was getting isolated.

                        JFH slightly rectified this in the 2nd half but for me Cousins is wasted on the right. You get the best from him in the middle, therefore I'd bring him in for Henry. Even when he's on the right he still kept drifting inside, so we had no width at all. Yeni needs to play on the right (his best position) and Mide needs to return on the left to give the team better shape and balance.

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                        • LoftusRoadLad
                          W12 Seat
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 19582

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Stanley
                          Exactly. We're definitely creating chances. The problem with the 1st half last night is that Luongo and Henry were both playing deep and thus Chery was getting starved of possession and Polter was getting isolated.

                          JFH slightly rectified this in the 2nd half but for me Cousins is wasted on the right. You get the best from him in the middle, therefore I'd bring him in for Henry. Even when he's on the right he still kept drifting inside, so we had no width at all. Yeni needs to play on the right (his best position) and Mide needs to return on the left to give the team better shape and balance.

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                          • skranger
                            Silver Seat
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 1177

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Rebel R's
                            I agree apart from the get rid of Conor, first we need at least 3 senior strikers ,at the moment we have only 2,secondly we wouldn't get back the money we paid for him but most importantly I wouldn't write him off quite yet,he may still come good
                            Agree with that rebel

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                            • nanocopic
                              Silver Seat
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 1725

                              #29
                              Originally posted by nasser95
                              So we actually scored 15 set piece goals (remember Faurlin got all but one assist from corners) as well as 3 penalties. This season we're already on 3 set piece goals and 4 penalties.
                              Wow surprised we scored that many from set pieces, but remember we hardly got any penalties.

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                              • Bluehoop
                                Gold Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 9258

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Stanley
                                Exactly. We're definitely creating chances. The problem with the 1st half last night is that Luongo and Henry were both playing deep and thus Chery was getting starved of possession and Polter was getting isolated.

                                JFH slightly rectified this in the 2nd half but for me Cousins is wasted on the right. You get the best from him in the middle, therefore I'd bring him in for Henry. Even when he's on the right he still kept drifting inside, so we had no width at all. Yeni needs to play on the right (his best position) and Mide needs to return on the left to give the team better shape and balance.
                                Stanley for manager - all of this is spot on and I'm not giving you too much credit mate because it's all blindingly obvious The OP needs a reality check as Ginge says, as corroborated by Nas the Stat, winning 4 penalties already this season indicates the mentality we have and is far from an issue to be concerned with
                                #standuptocancer
                                #inyourfacecancer

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