Benitez pony manager. Always has been. Every club he's done hundreds of millions and took every team backwards. Said there be c,rap this season because of him.
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Norwich were a Championship side last year - tailor made for going back up IMO. Newcastle will be there or there abouts but Villa...not convinced by them at all.Originally posted by West Acton View PostThe only side I can see walking away with league is Norwich. I'm not convinced Newcastle or Villa will go up unlike the pundits
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Sorry, what?! Every team bckwards? Valencia who he took to two la liga titles, where he won their first in 31 years and beat the galaticos of madrid who had zidane, figo, ronaldo and so on. Then he took Liverpool to two champions league finals winning one, a guy that got traore, finnan, pennant to champions league finals. Also got liverpool to runners up in pl. He brought in Xabi Alonso, reina, mascherano, torres all world class players. Even at chelsea he won them the europa league.Inter went badly, his main failure although that was a very aging squad that were very similar to the squad sir alex left man u when he retired. Npaoli and Madrid he just did average.Originally posted by QPR Rickson View PostBenitez pony manager. Always has been. Every club he's done hundreds of millions and took every team backwards. Said there be c,rap this season because of him.
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Yes, but apart from that, what has he ever done to make him anything more than a crap manager?Originally posted by nanocopic View PostSorry, what?! Every team bckwards? Valencia who he took to two la liga titles, where he won their first in 31 years and beat the galaticos of madrid who had zidane, figo, ronaldo and so on. Then he took Liverpool to two champions league finals winning one, a guy that got traore, finnan, pennant to champions league finals. Also got liverpool to runners up in pl. He brought in Xabi Alonso, reina, mascherano, torres all world class players. Even at chelsea he won them the europa league.Inter went badly, his main failure although that was a very aging squad that were very similar to the squad sir alex left man u when he retired. Npaoli and Madrid he just did average.
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This is one of the weirdest statements ever made... Nanocopic has listed his entire career performance and you've said "What else has he done..."Originally posted by stanistheman View PostYes, but apart from that, what has he ever done to make him anything more than a crap manager?��"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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Oh right, my bad haha, I'm usually a lot better at getting these things... Probably was in the emoticons at the end that are just Question marks to me lol. Apologies StanOriginally posted by CroydonCaptainJack View PostI think he was joking. I almost said 'but what have the Romans ever done for us' in the same way."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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Originally posted by nanocopic View PostSorry, what?! Every team bckwards? Valencia who he took to two la liga titles, where he won their first in 31 years and beat the galaticos of madrid who had zidane, figo, ronaldo and so on. Then he took Liverpool to two champions league finals winning one, a guy that got traore, finnan, pennant to champions league finals. Also got liverpool to runners up in pl. He brought in Xabi Alonso, reina, mascherano, torres all world class players. Even at chelsea he won them the europa league.Inter went badly, his main failure although that was a very aging squad that were very similar to the squad sir alex left man u when he retired. Npaoli and Madrid he just did average.
torres world class
deffo not
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Can't be serious here, I know this ain't a joke opinionOriginally posted by Pinkie View Posttorres world class
deffo not
"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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Not at the moment, but surely at the time Benitez signed him, you can't say he wasn't World Class... The guy made Vidic regularly look like a schoolboy defenderOriginally posted by Pinkie View PostNo joke & for me hes not world class at all, in my opinion!"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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You cant just be world class for a season or two nas! not too sure how many seasons he was at liverpool tbh, but if he was world class you wouldnt of seen his chelseas performances like they were!
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Played 3 full seasons for Liverpool, scored more than a goal every other game for them and scored consistently for athletico madrid as captain for 5 seasons...Originally posted by Pinkie View PostYou cant just be world class for a season or two nas! not too sure how many seasons he was at liverpool tbh, but if he was world class you wouldnt of seen his chelseas performances like they were!"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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How old is he now? so 3 great seasons for liverpool doesnt mean hes world class nas! you could of stuck paul furlong there and he would of got loads of goals and had a few great seasons maybe, and it wouldnt mean furrs would of been world class!
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