QPR must be patient in search for players – Hasselbaink

[Connell10]

True.
Burnley and Hull went up first attempt because they went for it, rather than the slow rebuilding malarkey.
hull kept much of their squad and added to it, as did Burnley who also eent out and spent big on a goalscorer to replace Ings.

Think you forgot about FFP but carry on mate!

[Stanley]

Maybe we differ viewpoint wise, but inaccuracy?

My viewpoint is there were some inaccuracies which I went on to point out.

Our long term rebuilding approach - instituted when it became abundantly clear that we weren't going anywhere fast with the new regime - should not rubber stamp a reactionary transfer policy: that wont help Jimmy either. There has to be a middle ground if we have any ambition to move forward.

Not necessarily. I think you're still missing the point. Of course the club have ambition to move forward. HOWEVER clearly a budget has been set, based on what the club can actually afford, offset by:

a) Its goal of making the club sustainable and no longer getting into further debt. Have you not heard any of the CEO's statements over the last 6 months? I don't know how many times he's reiterated that point.

b) The longstanding FFP issue.

[hal9thou]

My viewpoint is there were some inaccuracies which I went on to point out. .

I must have missed those.....

the other point is that not moving forward can also cost money......

[Stanley]

the other point is that not moving forward can also cost money......

See my post above.

While people try and work out what our ambitions really are, I'm suggesting a sensible business plan. And that means occasionally saying to Jimmy, you've done OK with SFA, if there is one area where you need to spend a bit more, we'll sanction that business - within reason. The alternative is an acceptance of mid table at best for a good while - and that's fine if everyone (including the powers that be) comes out of the closet and says so. But I'm not hearing that. From anyone.

Again I have to disagree. What they have said is this is a period of consolidation with the long-term aim of getting back to the PL, but only on a stable and sustainable financial footing. Nobody on the board has said the aim for this season is promotion - the reasons for which I also set out above.

[norfolk ranger]

I just hope we can get some quality in and hopefully ditch that hopeless one up top formation. If jfh continues to use it its going to be another season of dross ball.

[lymehoop]

I just hope we can get some quality in and hopefully ditch that hopeless one up top formation. If jfh continues to use it its going to be another season of dross ball.

I agree, perhaps we'll have to put up with Conor playing off the BFG. Apart from Nakhi Wells whose name keeps cropping up, I'm struggling to think of a forward that put 20 goals in the back of the net. Not for the money we are prepared to pay anyway

[Hertford Hoop]

The trouble is that we are competing with almost every club in a search for a decent forward. There ain't a great choice available and those that are can be choosy where they want to go, do they want to come to a club like ours with our recent history?

[amusant]

It's looking like the club are seeing Burnley as the model going forward. No coincidence that we have their former CEO on board. Burnley built their team on a shoestring and got promoted. Promotion solved any financial worries at the club and they also used the Premiership money to gradually improve the quality of the squad. They were happy to go down and not over-react, they're now back as champions and in the most lucrative season ever for the Premier League with a healthy balance sheet and a decent quality squad which may well keep them there this time. Just about as stark a contrast imaginable to the way we went about getting and staying there.

[LoftusRoadLad]

Burnley have got in 2 Charlton players for a total outlay of zero. Cannot see them staying up.

[nasser95]

Burnley have got in 2 Charlton players for a total outlay of zero. Cannot see them staying up.

They spent 3.7 mil on the two.

[LoftusRoadLad]

They spent 3.7 mil on the two.

I got that wrong opps

[hal9thou]

See my post above.

I had. I don't think there was an inaccuracy per se.

Again I have to disagree. What they have said is this is a period of consolidation with the long-term aim of getting back to the PL, but only on a stable and sustainable financial footing. Nobody on the board has said the aim for this season is promotion - the reasons for which I also set out above.

There you go again. Long term. What does this actually mean?

The problem with buying PR speak like 'long term' wholesale is that it avoids anyone having to say 'basically we fvcked up so badly that we're now mid term champ at best for the forseeable' You can dress it up with terms like 'development' but development can take years in itself. Remember Dario Gradi at Crewe? Everyone loved them because they only did development and DG steadily sold on a stream of talent. And yet they were relegated last term. Would that model work for you? Because guess what, development can lead down as well as up. People need to define their terms in this debate and say what they mean or what they would deem acceptable. You refer me to the CEO but surprise surprise, he hasn't defined anything at all.

Now lets talk 'sustainable financial footing'. If 'long term development' equates to stasis, is that sustainable? Boom and bust isn't the greatest business plan, but to me that looks pretty much like what we have here. That's why I think a median needs to be found.

I don't think TF had a clue about running a football club - or an F1 team - and although I do not doubt his commitment I seriously wonder if the current reactionary policy will benefit him or the club long term.

[nanocopic]

I fully accept that we could get relegated before promotion, it has happened to other clubs and it could to us. It probably won't happen , I think we easily have a mid table team who if pulled together and worked hard.could finish higher. They all know that the previous transfers were failures, big failures as thats why we got relegated which is why they are changing the policy. I don't think this season will be pretty.and beautiful football but I think we will see a lot hard working fitter players able to challenge for a full game and not let in as many late goals.

[skranger]

Spot on Hal9thou !!

All this rebuilding talk - we need to strike now whilst we still have parachute payments and money in from Phillips et al ,,,

Don't take the opportunity and we will be again languishing in lower divisions for foreseeable future ,,,

All this talk of rebuilding is a sell out ,,, we should be grabbing the bull by the horns - sensible but not necessarily bargain basement purchases ,,,

We need to spend some money, particularly on a semi decent striker/winger ,,,

We don't have to repeat our mistakes from the past but quality is needed

[acricketer]

[QUOTE=nanocopic;1546149 but I think we will see a lot hard working fitter players able to challenge for a full game and not let in as many late goals.[/QUOTE]

Cobblers!