A fellow R for Prime Minister......

[Awin]

Michael being PM and Scotland leaving the UK would do for me......

Fair enough

[Ginger Ninja]

Why don't we stop all this nonsense now and fast track Nigel for prime minister.

Because he's a bigger tw@t than Gove, and you'd have to go some way to achieve that...

[Ramsey is god]

It is becoming a complete joke in all honesty.

It is ludicrous to have a PM who clearly wanted to stay in the EU, left to negotiate our way out.

Dont Like Gove, but seeing as Boris seems to be shrinking in his shell, what other option is there. Utter Utter Shambles.

[Rangers77]

Because he's a bigger tw@t than Gove, and you'd have to go some way to achieve that...

Jez Ginge??

[jmelanie]

An Independence vote in Scotland is an enormous gamble because there is no guarantee they would be allowed to join the EU. Spain for one is against it because they are worried that the Basques and other minorities in Spain would then want the same.

[Hove Ranger]

Quite surprised at the level of vitriol towards Gove on here. Would like to see more detailed reasons rather than the fact that some just don't like him. Listened to his entire speech and thought it was by far and away the best pitch for a leader of a British political party I've ever heard. I suppose only a victory and a bit of time will determine if it was simply well chosen words or has any substance.

As for Sturgeon being impressive in any way at all ...

I'm not surprised mate. Actions speak louder than words

[Southport]

Gove has been drifiting in the betting markets since Boris pulled out yesterday, Angela Leadsom seems to be the closest rival to Theresa May, but Leadsom was part of the team campaigning for Brexit.

I actually thought it was a very good speech by Gove this morning (I was surprised) not sure how well it will go down north of the border when he talked about having a fair distribution across the union, it is well known that he disagrees with the Barnett formula so the Scots might get a big reduction should he become the PM. Also not sure that the Scots can vote for independence, oil is under $50 per barrel, compared to their financial estimates they brought forward this is between an 8 and 12% shortfall in their income, as Sturgeon was planning on running a deficit anyway, and EU rules not allowing a nation to have more than a 3% deficit, she would have to cut the education budget in half, obviously this wouldn't happen but the sheer drop off of revenue would mean plenty of tough times.

[Stanley]

Quite surprised at the level of vitriol towards Gove on here. Would like to see more detailed reasons rather than the fact that some just don't like him. Listened to his entire speech and thought it was by far and away the best pitch for a leader of a British political party I've ever heard. I suppose only a victory and a bit of time will determine if it was simply well chosen words or has any substance.

I attempted to make a similar point earlier but was immediately shot down in flames without a single constructive counter-argument

[12321]

As QPR fans shouldnt we want him in as PM as then he might be able to use some under the table influence to push through OOC for us?

[Hubble]

His son is a Chelsea fan. It causes the odd issue in the Gove household apparently.

Did anyone hear his leadership speech this morning? I was quite impressed tbh. He came across more like a socialist than a tory. Promised an extra £100 million a week to the NHS by 2020 too.

And you believed him???

Stan, I'm disappointed. The most Machiavellian character to emerge yet from this sorry tale. Dangerously, almost psychopathically ambitious. A wolf in nerd's clothing.

Marina Hyde has written an excellent article about him today, worth 3 minutes of your time:

"In the Tory laundry basket, Michael Gove is the dirtiest item."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/01/michael-gove-treachery-conservative-leader-theresa-may

[Ginger Ninja]

Jez Ginge??

You've lost me 77...

[Stanley]

As QPR fans shouldnt we want him in as PM as then he might be able to use some under the table influence to push through OOC for us?

Good point.

And you believed him???

Not really Hubs. Took it with my usual grain of political salt. I did think it was a highly impressive speech though of quite epic proportions. Did you hear it?

[Hubble]

Good point.



Not really Hubs. Took it with my usual grain of political salt. I did think it was a highly impressive speech though of quite epic proportions. Did you hear it?

No, read it and about it. Wouldn't trust that man as far as I can spit. He'll say anything he thinks will work. Facts are an irrelevance to him.

[Rangers77]

You've lost me 77...

Sorry Ginge. Jez. As in Mr Corbyn. A better bet for you?

[Rangers77]

And you believed him???

Stan, I'm disappointed. The most Machiavellian character to emerge yet from this sorry tale. Dangerously, almost psychopathically ambitious. A wolf in nerd's clothing.

Marina Hyde has written an excellent article about him today, worth 3 minutes of your time:

"In the Tory laundry basket, Michael Gove is the dirtiest item."

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...er-theresa-may

With a title like that the piece can only be a balanced and fair appraisal.....