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  • Martinmalta
    Silver Seat
    • Apr 2012
    • 2510

    #1

    Its going to take time.....

    To build a proper team, a modern one based on pressing, energy and determination complimented with some flair and imagination, will take time and patience. Unless we stop creating a storm every time we have a bad result, we will never reach these objectives. People criticize both LF and JFH for the poor results. However, JFH have to play with what we have. Most of our current players cannot press, cannot stay close to an opponent, cannot create moments of magic...because they are not good enough for such system. The signing of CW, Nasser and the two keepers shows that at least there's a plan to achieve these goals. However, in the coming years, we have to get rid of more players that do not fit in such a system. Results will show in two years time. Meantime.....patience is required.
  • Macca
    Silver Seat
    • Apr 2012
    • 4047

    #2
    Originally posted by Martinmalta
    To build a proper team, a modern one based on pressing, energy and determination complimented with some flair and imagination, will take time and patience. Unless we stop creating a storm every time we have a bad result, we will never reach these objectives. People criticize both LF and JFH for the poor results. However, JFH have to play with what we have. Most of our current players cannot press, cannot stay close to an opponent, cannot create moments of magic...because they are not good enough for such system. The signing of CW, Nasser and the two keepers shows that at least there's a plan to achieve these goals. However, in the coming years, we have to get rid of more players that do not fit in such a system. Results will show in two years time. Meantime.....patience is required.
    If JFH is still here next season we will be fighting relegation because he does not have a clue, we will have a team of 1st and 2nd Div players that are not good enough for the championship.

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    • West Acton
      CCG
      • Dec 2009
      • 21475

      #3
      Originally posted by Macca
      If JFH is still here next season we will be fighting relegation because he does not have a clue, we will have a team of 1st and 2nd Div players that are not good enough for the championship.
      Could not disagree more

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      • nasser95
        Gold Seat
        • Dec 2012
        • 7216

        #4
        Originally posted by Macca
        If JFH is still here next season we will be fighting relegation because he does not have a clue, we will have a team of 1st and 2nd Div players that are not good enough for the championship.


        People talk about drossball on the pitch, what about Dross Chat on the forums.
        "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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        • TeddingtonRanger
          Apprentice
          • May 2014
          • 27

          #5
          Originally posted by nasser95


          People talk about drossball on the pitch, what about Dross Chat on the forums.
          There is a lot of Dross Chat on here!!!!!

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          • CroydonCaptainJack
            Gold Seat
            • Jan 2011
            • 6141

            #6
            Originally posted by Macca
            If JFH is still here next season we will be fighting relegation because he does not have a clue, we will have a team of 1st and 2nd Div players that are not good enough for the championship.
            Way to early to make that call imo.

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            • Timmy the Doc
              Silver Seat
              • Jan 2012
              • 3193

              #7
              Which two keepers?

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              • Martinmalta
                Silver Seat
                • Apr 2012
                • 2510

                #8
                More established players will leave the club by the end of this season. I am not sure if this will weakened us more as most of these players are not pulling any trees. If we are able to bring good players from the lower divisions eager to succeed, coupled with some shrewd CCC players that we may sign, I have the believe that JFH will be a success. For a Manager to stamp his mark on a club like ours which do not know where they were going, unless now of course, will need time. Since relegation we lost Zamora, Barton, SWP, Austin, Fer, Sandro, Caulker, Ferdinand, Isla, Vargas, Krancjar.....that's ELEVEN players being paid huge money for doing little. During this Summer we will witness more departures....Green, Diakite, Traore, Konch, Phillips, Hoilett, Hill.....and maybe more. Do anyone realistically expects instant success? After all, what did all these big names achieved?

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                • Martinmalta
                  Silver Seat
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 2510

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Timmy the Doc
                  Which two keepers?
                  Smithies and Ingram. Yes I know....Smithies was signed during CR reign.

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                  • Shania
                    C Club
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 23696

                    #10
                    Originally posted by nasser95


                    People talk about drossball on the pitch, what about Dross Chat on the forums.
                    It´s quite sad really..
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                    • dogsrrs
                      Gold Seat
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 6671

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Macca
                      If JFH is still here next season we will be fighting relegation because he does not have a clue, we will have a team of 1st and 2nd Div players that are not good enough for the championship.
                      You will have a team of 1st and 2nd div players whoever is manager it's the clubs latest idea of future planing

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                      • Shania
                        C Club
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 23696

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Martinmalta
                        More established players will leave the club by the end of this season. I am not sure if this will weakened us more as most of these players are not pulling any trees. If we are able to bring good players from the lower divisions eager to succeed, coupled with some shrewd CCC players that we may sign, I have the believe that JFH will be a success. For a Manager to stamp his mark on a club like ours which do not know where they were going, unless now of course, will need time. Since relegation we lost Zamora, Barton, SWP, Austin, Fer, Sandro, Caulker, Ferdinand, Isla, Vargas, Krancjar.....that's ELEVEN players being paid huge money for doing little. During this Summer we will witness more departures....Green, Diakite, Traore, Konch, Phillips, Hoilett, Hill.....and maybe more. Do anyone realistically expects instant success? After all, what did all these big names achieved?


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                        • Shania
                          C Club
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 23696

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dogsrrs
                          You will have a team of 1st and 2nd div players whoever is manager it's the clubs latest idea of future planing
                          Why so negative? You used to be quite positive? No pun, I just wonder. It´s not the end of the world being a midtable team for a season or two. Leicester and Burnley were once in that position and look at them now!!
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                          • Stanley
                            Guest
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 23693

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dogsrrs
                            You will have a team of 1st and 2nd div players whoever is manager it's the clubs latest idea of future planing
                            Actually 'it's the club's latest idea' of cutting your coat according to your cloth and keeping within a limited budget. Seems quite prudent and sensible to me. And as the OP says, that requires patience, which unfortunately for some fans is a very rare commodity.

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                            • nanocopic
                              Silver Seat
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 1725

                              #15
                              The best players bar Hall at our club are either the ones JFH has bought, (El Khayati, Washington) or reintegrated from the sidelines (Luongo, Smithies, Polter). He is doing a good job with a terrible playing staff.

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