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  • ArthurQPR_NYC
    Silver Seat
    • Jul 2013
    • 1323

    #31
    Originally posted by Ed the Ball
    tbf all football supporters are the same
    to an extent i see your point. but the toxic atmosphere at the end and some of the songs we sang toward the end there, while still mid table, may not be easily found up and down this country

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    • nasser95
      Gold Seat
      • Dec 2012
      • 7216

      #32
      Originally posted by dave58
      Cant see it think he'll wait for a job in the Prem to come up, also not so sure he'll want to work under a DOF may want the final say on things and that may rule him out
      Moyes is about as forward thinking you can get as a British Manager. He ran the most detailed data analysis in all of the prem for most of his years at Everton which brought him success and was happy staying at Sociedad when they have a DOF (they call it a sporting director). I really don't get this whole 'big manager wants all the say in everything' The real managers of modern football would have no issue and would welcome the support of a DOF.
      "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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      • 12321
        Silver Seat
        • May 2012
        • 1452

        #33
        Originally posted by nasser95
        A proven record of one prem promotion?
        Yes, and as I said in my post keeping Leicester up the next season. Not too many of those available.
        I'm not saying he doesn't have other issues but what are we looking for at QPR, Champions league winners, Premiership winners? We have to cut our cloth and be realistic about who we can get in.

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        • ArthurQPR_NYC
          Silver Seat
          • Jul 2013
          • 1323

          #34
          Originally posted by nasser95
          Moyes is about as forward thinking you can get as a British Manager. He ran the most detailed data analysis in all of the prem for most of his years at Everton which brought him success and was happy staying at Sociedad when they have a DOF (they call it a sporting director). I really don't get this whole 'big manager wants all the say in everything' The real managers of modern football would have no issue and would welcome the support of a DOF.
          also, many on here moan about this DOF job being the first for Les, and him being inexperienced.

          so I add, if Les was clever he would take a step back and not try to "boss around" an experienced manager like Moyes (or Pearson) if he came in. for the footballing aspects like game preparation, squad selection, and tactics, just put your head down and let Moyes do that job.
          Doesn't mean he can't be his boss, and can't lead a successful transfer window signing more of the likes of Grant Hall and Luongo. just because its football, doesn't mean it can't work as a non-combative relationship
          Rangers Til I Die
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          • hh9
            Silver Seat
            • Oct 2012
            • 1016

            #35
            We on this board just don't like managers - period
            Since 1997 we don't like Houstun, R Harford, Dowie, Waddock, M Harford, De Canio, Sousa, Magilton, Hart, Hughes, Redknapp or Ramsey
            We don't like Warburton, Moyes; Pearson, Mourinho or any other name mentioned
            Best idea is not to have a manager at all - nameless committee select the team, buys players and so on - problem solved

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            • winalotto
              Gold Seat
              • Mar 2009
              • 5524

              #36
              Really can,t see Moyes at Rangers , you have to look at our set up with Les and maybe another above him, don't think he would agree to that , i think we will look for a coach that would work with others not a manager that would want overall control.

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              • bakes8
                Silver Seat
                • Jan 2014
                • 4561

                #37
                Originally posted by hh9
                We on this board just don't like managers - period
                Since 1997 we don't like Houstun, R Harford, Dowie, Waddock, M Harford, De Canio, Sousa, Magilton, Hart, Hughes, Redknapp or Ramsey
                We don't like Warburton, Moyes; Pearson, Mourinho or any other name mentioned
                Best idea is not to have a manager at all - nameless committee select the team, buys players and so on - problem solved
                Warnock forever then?

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                • hh9
                  Silver Seat
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1016

                  #38
                  Originally posted by bakes8
                  Warnock forever then?
                  I was thinking Dowie who has the highest percentage of any QPR manager according to Wikipedia - Is he alive.

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                  • bakes8
                    Silver Seat
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 4561

                    #39
                    Originally posted by hh9
                    I was thinking Dowie who has the highest percentage of any QPR manager according to Wikipedia - Is he alive.
                    I hope not....

                    Only joking, long live King Dowie.

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                    • dave58
                      Gold Seat
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 5285

                      #40
                      Originally posted by nasser95
                      Moyes is about as forward thinking you can get as a British Manager. He ran the most detailed data analysis in all of the prem for most of his years at Everton which brought him success and was happy staying at Sociedad when they have a DOF (they call it a sporting director). I really don't get this whole 'big manager wants all the say in everything' The real managers of modern football would have no issue and would welcome the support of a DOF.
                      Lets see?

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                      • Shepherds Mush
                        Platinum Seat
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 10325

                        #41
                        Originally posted by nasser95
                        A proven record of one prem promotion?
                        Pearson has done a lot more than that.

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                        • nasser95
                          Gold Seat
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 7216

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
                          Pearson has done a lot more than that.
                          Not really, he got promoted from league 1 once with Leicester, and one promotion to prem. 2 play offs but he didn't get them up either time and 2 months of solid football for a whole season kept his team in the prem.
                          "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                          • dave58
                            Gold Seat
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 5285

                            #43
                            Originally posted by hh9
                            We on this board just don't like managers - period
                            Since 1997 we don't like Houstun, R Harford, Dowie, Waddock, M Harford, De Canio, Sousa, Magilton, Hart, Hughes, Redknapp or Ramsey
                            We don't like Warburton, Moyes; Pearson, Mourinho or any other name mentioned
                            Best idea is not to have a manager at all - nameless committee select the team, buys players and so on - problem solved
                            I Want to be on that committee !!!!

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                            • hh9
                              Silver Seat
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 1016

                              #44
                              Originally posted by dave58
                              I Want to be on that committee !!!!
                              ssssh - don't tell anyone - you will be hated in here

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                              • Ginger Ninja
                                W12 Seat
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 17458

                                #45
                                Originally posted by hh9
                                We on this board just don't like managers - period
                                Since 1997 we don't like Houstun, R Harford, Dowie, Waddock, M Harford, De Canio, Sousa, Magilton, Hart, Hughes, Redknapp or Ramsey
                                We don't like Warburton, Moyes; Pearson, Mourinho or any other name mentioned
                                Best idea is not to have a manager at all - nameless committee select the team, buys players and so on - problem solved
                                What are you banging on about?
                                Plenty of threads with posts in saying they'd like Pearson/Moyes/Lambert/Rodgers/Hasselbaink/Warnock and Derry/Holloway...we aren't all going to agree on a manager are we?
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