Green deal off - Collins says no

[skranger]

Last season we moaned because when we lost Remy we didn't have a replacement, so this time fearing Greeno may go we sign a replacement so we are covered but now we moan as we should have waited until Green had gone ? Whatever happens Smithies will be Number One next season and will push Green this season, IF, Green doesn't go.

Correct !!

[Timmy the Doc]

Whatever happens Smithies will be Number One next season and will push Green this season, IF, Green doesn't go.

That's how I see it too.

[Shania]

If we could get Tomkins that would be cool.

Yes, he is just as good, in my humble opinion.

[Stanley]

McCarthy went straight into CP first team after signing from us and Speroni was made substitute. If we did have the guts to do the same here, maybe he will still be an R player.

Ditto Jason Puncheon and Damien Delaney, and both held their own in the PL.

[kenthoop]

Mirror and other outlets reporting that the Green to West Ham deal is off because Collins refused to go the other way as part of the deal. This comes after an authorative report from a journo well plugged into West Ham that they are in any case now satisfied with their existing number two. Not only is it frustrating to not get Collins - though that is his decision and not something anyone can blame our club for - but does that mean Smithies was signed for nothing? Sure, we need a reserve keeper but for a long while we survived with Murphy who cost nothing and played about twice a season in the micky mouse cup or whatever - if, as some suggest, we can't buy a centre half until we sell someone then this seems like a very strange sense of priorities. £2m for a reserve likely to play a handful of games a season is a heck of a lot of money in the Champ when we are scrimping so much elsewhere. Why not have stalled on Smithies till we knew about Green? It was not as if, as far as I know, anyone else was after him. Odd one.

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/789147148?-294:802:0

Green will be gone next season regardless, so it's better to have a ready replacement now than scramble around next summer with no keepers on the books.

[Burnside]

Soon as Green makes a gaff get Smithies in.

[Ramsey is god]

McCarthy went straight into CP first team after signing from us and Speroni was made substitute. If we did have the guts to do the same here, maybe he will still be an R player. Either Green stays or not, Smithies must have his fare share of playing time.

completely wrong. Speroni was injured

[stainrodisalegend]

Green will be gone next season regardless, so it's better to have a ready replacement now than scramble around next summer with no keepers on the books.

Minimum £500,000 maybe £1m in wages spent in the meantime.

[Timmy the Doc]

Minimum £500,000 maybe £1m in wages spent in the meantime.

£400,000 and we would still need cover, so net wages are about £250,000. Peanuts really if we are looking for promotion.

[stainrodisalegend]

£400,000 and we would still need cover, so net wages are about £250,000. Peanuts really if we are looking for promotion.

Less than £10,000 a week for a £2m player? Unlikely imho, we were paying 7,000 a week to free transfers back in Paladini's day. I'm only surprised because generally the club seems to be a much tighter ship than the last few seasons, and all the better for that.

[Timmy the Doc]

Less than £10,000 a week for a £2m player? Unlikely imho, we were paying 7,000 a week to free transfers back in Paladini's day. I'm only surprised because generally the club seems to be a much tighter ship than the last few seasons, and all the better for that.

Sorry, miscalculated. But I don't think our economy is as bad as people think.

[Hitman34]

Ffs. Just tell Green he's on the bench, he will soon find his way out.

exactly

[Itsonlyagame]

Hardly earth-shattering hindsight. You don't buy a new house until you are sure you have sold the old one...

Completely different kettle of fish but funnily enough your analogy to house buying actually backs up what the club did.
Most people don't sell their house outright before securing another one, if they did they'd have nowhere to live.
Property purchases usually involve large deposits paid in advance of the final transfer, something that I'm not sure happens in football.
The only way we could have truly covered ourselves against being without a keeper, ie green going and smithies not coming would have been to get Green, Collins, Smithies and all of their agents and club reps to sit round a table and sign contracts simultaneously.
None of us know what really happened but I would imagine the club were given a strong indication that there was a deal to be done with West Ham so took necessary action. For all we know Green himself might have done everything bar put in an official transfer request to get a move.
If green only has one year left on his contract and the opportunity presents itself to buy a highly rated young replacement, we'd be stupid not to.
If smithies does warm the bench for a few weeks, months, or even the whole season what can he do ?

[Shania]

i bet the deal wil be on again, tomorrow.

If not, Brede Hangeland is most likely on his way to Loftus Road, as we speak