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  • Harryboy
    Silver Seat
    • Jan 2014
    • 4020

    #61
    I like joey, but how many times he been a bad egg for this club. A silly sending off against hull not to mention others, he ain't got room to shout IMO
    You Rsssssss

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    • Shepherds Mush
      Platinum Seat
      • Nov 2012
      • 10325

      #62
      Originally posted by Nick
      Out of all the players over the last few weeks imo Barton's been the stand out player (admittedly not the hardest thing to be a stand out player at qpr) who seemed to be trying the hardest, and has showed that he has been trying/giving 100%, but again what lets him down is his mouth.... Bad decision especially as club captain to come out and make it so publicly clear there are bad eggs with in the team, when there was still the smallest of slithers of hope that we could do the great escape. All he's done is stir the $hit and caused tension in the dressing room. Obviously doesnt matter now but should've waited until there was a big R next to our name in the league table before $hit stirring the team.
      To be fair, none of them were in the team for City and none were likely to play again (if you go by the five named)

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      • Hove Ranger
        Silver Seat
        • Aug 2011
        • 4441

        #63
        Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
        To be fair, none of them were in the team for City and none were likely to play again (if you go by the five named)
        Its a strange one cos of the 5 named only Isla has played regularly this season so how much really could they have caused relegation? If they were such a distraction to the 1st team particularly taraabt, traore and zarate they should have been banished to the reserves or just away from the 1st team to allow them to concentrate on playing. The players playing week in week out need to take some responsibility for this season

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        • Nick
          Gold Seat
          • Oct 2013
          • 5593

          #64
          Originally posted by Hove Ranger
          Its a strange one cos of the 5 named only Isla has played regularly this season so how much really could they have caused relegation? If they were such a distraction to the 1st team particularly taraabt, traore and zarate they should have been banished to the reserves or just away from the 1st team to allow them to concentrate on playing. The players playing week in week out need to take some responsibility for this season
          What about training/dressing room/any sort of occasion where the squad's together?.... dont need to be in the starting 11 to influence/bring the side down
          SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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          • Hove Ranger
            Silver Seat
            • Aug 2011
            • 4441

            #65
            Originally posted by Nick
            What about training/dressing room/any sort of occasion where the squad's together?.... dont need to be in the starting 11 to influence/bring the side down
            If they were such a distraction and obviously weren't going to play (because they are never selected) then they should have been removed from the 1st team scenario to allow the 1st team to focus. I wont deny that they are wronguns but measures should have been taken to ensure our focus was on avoiding relegation and if that involved banishing, demoting or even releasing the players then so be it. To come out at the end of the season and say the main reason we were relegated was because of 5 players, 4 of which hardly played seems a bit of a cop out to me. Add to that the fact 2 of them have been on our books a while so the club were aware of their characters and even gave traore a new contract last year. My point is that either they were a massive distraction and should have been dealt with by the club much earlier in the season to ensure the 1st teams focus or they are being made the scapegoats like the 2012/13 french africans when clearly there is a general problem with the culture/dressing room/atmosphere behind the scenes that hasnt been addressed since the board took over.

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            • Stanley
              Guest
              • Mar 2009
              • 23693

              #66
              Originally posted by West London is Rss
              Barton says they 'werent to blame for relegation'.. very careful words chosen.

              He's not denying their the bad eggs
              Very true. Just an attempt to wriggle out of the latest hole he's dug himself.

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              • Nick
                Gold Seat
                • Oct 2013
                • 5593

                #67
                Originally posted by Hove Ranger
                If they were such a distraction and obviously weren't going to play (because they are never selected) then they should have been removed from the 1st team scenario to allow the 1st team to focus. I wont deny that they are wronguns but measures should have been taken to ensure our focus was on avoiding relegation and if that involved banishing, demoting or even releasing the players then so be it. To come out at the end of the season and say the main reason we were relegated was because of 5 players, 4 of which hardly played seems a bit of a cop out to me. Add to that the fact 2 of them have been on our books a while so the club were aware of their characters and even gave traore a new contract last year. My point is that either they were a massive distraction and should have been dealt with by the club much earlier in the season to ensure the 1st teams focus or they are being made the scapegoats like the 2012/13 french africans when clearly there is a general problem with the culture/dressing room/atmosphere behind the scenes that hasnt been addressed since the board took over.
                The point I was making is that you dont need to be in the starting 11 to have a negative impact on the team..... I do agree with your post though.
                SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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                • Hove Ranger
                  Silver Seat
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 4441

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Nick
                  The point I was making is that you dont need to be in the starting 11 to have a negative impact on the team..... I do agree with your post though.
                  Fair enough mate.

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                  • stationcafe
                    Bronze Seat
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 747

                    #69
                    Originally posted by West Acton
                    So we replaced the French Africans with South Americans. Hope all enjoyed their paid holiday in the capital dirty S hitcunt s
                    You sound like such a #####.
                    Originally posted by Robsondinho
                    Not defending any of the 'bad eggs' one bit as I would be fuming if I was putting a shift in and others wern't on the training field, but it makes you realise why English players and football apart from the foreigners is cr*p. Players who try hard and fly into tackles are heroes, but the flair players who have more ability in their little toe then the likes of Barton are hung out to dry as they won't do pointless running on the training field.
                    Exactly. Maybe it's coming from years of lower league football, but some of our fans want 11 Shaun Derrys and a side that plays like Wimbledon in the 80s.

                    Need change at every level, blaming players is just pathetic.

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                    • ArcticHoop
                      Silver Seat
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 1558

                      #70
                      We can reveal Chile international whose attitude already has him in the firing line after Hoops' relegation was TWICE asked to help try to turn around 3-1 deficit

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                      • West Acton
                        CCG
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 21475

                        #71
                        Originally posted by stationcafe
                        You sound like such a #####.
                        .
                        Thank you Cafe. Top of the morning to you

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                        • Awin
                          Silver Seat
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 2951

                          #72
                          If the mirror article from today is true it shows the scale of problems we had this season.

                          Refused to go on? Bet he didn't refuse to collect his wages though... Absolutely shocking!

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                          • nasser95
                            Gold Seat
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 7216

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Awin
                            If the mirror article from today is true it shows the scale of problems we had this season.

                            Refused to go on? Bet he didn't refuse to collect his wages though... Absolutely shocking!
                            It is a disgrace, seemed like a good kid as well. Such a shame. Only positive is the reaction of the club to keep it quiet for as long as they did and deal with it correctly.
                            "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                            • West London is Rss
                              Gold Seat
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 6372

                              #74
                              Couldnt believe this, when i saw it this morning

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                              • stationcafe
                                Bronze Seat
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 747

                                #75
                                Originally posted by West Acton
                                Thank you Cafe. Top of the morning to you
                                Tbf the censorship makes it look worse than it was. I said mor0n. Still, grouping everyone based on nationality is a tad simplistic.

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