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  • Shepherds Mush
    Platinum Seat
    • Nov 2012
    • 10325

    #31
    Originally posted by Hove Ranger
    We don't have the players IMO. None are good enough for the top 6 and only Austin and Green would get in mid to lower table prem sides. Either way their individual ability aside, the squad as a whole is completely unbalanced, lacks pace, lacks strikers, lacks full backs. Nowhere near good enough for this league
    Sums it up perfectly for me.

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    • CroydonCaptainJack
      Gold Seat
      • Jan 2011
      • 6141

      #32
      Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit
      This sums us up to a tee. Basically bossed the first half, gave Everton v v little, yet one half break & it's 1-0. Ridiculous.

      Same with second goal. Bobby should be ashamed of the chances he fluffed.
      Especially that header! WTF!

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      • Hove Ranger
        Silver Seat
        • Aug 2011
        • 4441

        #33
        Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
        Sums it up perfectly for me.
        Oh i forgot lacks wingers too

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        • Hove Ranger
          Silver Seat
          • Aug 2011
          • 4441

          #34
          Originally posted by nasser95
          Green, Isla, Caulker (Would make most bottom half sides), Phillips, Fer, Sandro, Vargas, Austin. Easily get into a lot of teams in this league.
          I disagree. They make the 25 of some of the teams in the league, mid to lower table teams.

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          • nasser95
            Gold Seat
            • Dec 2012
            • 7216

            #35
            Originally posted by Hove Ranger
            I disagree. They make the 25 of some of the teams in the league, mid to lower table teams.
            Really? Green would start for most in the mid table region, Isla would definitely start for almost any team outside the top 6 and maybe even in it, caulker would surely start for teams like West Brom, Palace and those around them, Phillips would be in and out of the first team picture for teams around us, Fer would definitely start for most teams outside the top 6, sandro wouldn't be here were he not faulted by injury, Vargas is a world cup striker and a very good one, Austin is one of the leagues top scorers.
            "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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            • SammyKojoe
              Silver Seat
              • Jan 2011
              • 1451

              #36
              Originally posted by nasser95
              Green, Isla, Caulker (Would make most bottom half sides), Phillips, Fer, Sandro, Vargas, Austin. Easily get into a lot of teams in this league.
              What teams would he easily get into? Good Championship player but that is it. Apart from the odd decent cross what else does he have or offer? Need a lot more than that to be a decent winger at the top level.

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              • vblockranger
                • Mar 2009
                • 15218

                #37
                Originally posted by nasser95
                Really? Green would start for most in the mid table region, Isla would definitely start for almost any team outside the top 6 and maybe even in it, caulker would surely start for teams like West Brom, Palace and those around them, Phillips would be in and out of the first team picture for teams around us, Fer would definitely start for most teams outside the top 6, sandro wouldn't be here were he not faulted by injury, Vargas is a world cup striker and a very good one, Austin is one of the leagues top scorers.

                Think you are looking through hooped tinted glasses mate. Way,way off the mark.

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                • MattyRangers
                  Slimmer of The Year
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 24914

                  #38
                  Originally posted by nasser95
                  Green, Isla, Caulker (Would make most bottom half sides), Phillips, Fer, Sandro, Vargas, Austin. Easily get into a lot of teams in this league.
                  In your opinion. In mine, Phillips would struggle to get in nearly every PL side, as would Caulker and Sandro. The latter is not only a sick note but a bit of a cart horse too.
                  You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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                  • nasser95
                    Gold Seat
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 7216

                    #39
                    Originally posted by vblockranger
                    Think you are looking through hooped tinted glasses mate. Way,way off the mark.
                    Isla is a regular in a top class Chile side, played a lot for the reigning Serie A champions but apparently isn't a premier league starter? c'mon give it a rest. Caulker is just better than those players in teams around us. Look at West brom, with Craig dawson and the ever awful lescott, or palace with Dann and Delaney. He is a mile better than all of those players and I have always said that the phrase prem quality is not the right one to use as the quality varies year after year. Same goes for phillips.
                    "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                    • nasser95
                      Gold Seat
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 7216

                      #40
                      Originally posted by SammyKojoe
                      What teams would he easily get into? Good Championship player but that is it. Apart from the odd decent cross what else does he have or offer? Need a lot more than that to be a decent winger at the top level.
                      He has pace, strength and skill. Look at his return as an example, he must have nutmegged about 5 players since coming back. He needs to be told when to cross but the quality is almost always there on the crosses.
                      "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                      • Hove Ranger
                        Silver Seat
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 4441

                        #41
                        Originally posted by nasser95
                        Really? Green would start for most in the mid table region, Isla would definitely start for almost any team outside the top 6 and maybe even in it, caulker would surely start for teams like West Brom, Palace and those around them, Phillips would be in and out of the first team picture for teams around us, Fer would definitely start for most teams outside the top 6, sandro wouldn't be here were he not faulted by injury, Vargas is a world cup striker and a very good one, Austin is one of the leagues top scorers.
                        Isla is a converted RWB, he still lacks defensively and I reckon most other teams would rather spend their money on more solid, established RBs. You have a man crush on Caulker so no point discussing him. Phillips has had a run of 6/7 alright games for us lately, hasnt really done alot the rest of the 2 seasons with us. Again Fer hasnt done a massive amount this season either. You say Sandro wouldnt be here if he werent faulted by injury but he is faulted by injury so that will put most teams off risking a sizable transfer on him. Vargas seems to be rated by some as this top level striker but you would think with our striker woes he would have played a lot more this season. And yes Austin is one of the league scorers but there are obvious flaws in his game that need working on and until he resolves these issues he will not be a regular for a top 6 prem side. Thats why he wasnt called up for England

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                        • vblockranger
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 15218

                          #42
                          Originally posted by nasser95
                          Isla is a regular in a top class Chile side, played a lot for the reigning Serie A champions but apparently isn't a premier league starter? c'mon give it a rest. Caulker is just better than those players in teams around us. Look at West brom, with Craig dawson and the ever awful lescott, or palace with Dann and Delaney. He is a mile better than all of those players and I have always said that the phrase prem quality is not the right one to use as the quality varies year after year. Same goes for phillips.

                          Isla wouldnt start for a top six prem side on the form he has shown for us imo. Caulker i would willingly swap for Lescott, Dawson or Dann in a heartbeat if those teams were dopey enough to do the deal but i very much doubt they would be that stupid.

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                          • Hove Ranger
                            Silver Seat
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 4441

                            #43
                            Originally posted by nasser95
                            He has pace, strength and skill. Look at his return as an example, he must have nutmegged about 5 players since coming back. He needs to be told when to cross but the quality is almost always there on the crosses.
                            Taraabt does it on a regular basis. Dont see many teams queuing up for him. Not sure if nutmegging is something we should be basing players ability on

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                            • vblockranger
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 15218

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Hove Ranger
                              Isla is a converted RWB, he still lacks defensively and I reckon most other teams would rather spend their money on more solid, established RBs. You have a man crush on Caulker so no point discussing him. Phillips has had a run of 6/7 alright games for us lately, hasnt really done alot the rest of the 2 seasons with us. Again Fer hasnt done a massive amount this season either. You say Sandro wouldnt be here if he werent faulted by injury but he is faulted by injury so that will put most teams off risking a sizable transfer on him. Vargas seems to be rated by some as this top level striker but you would think with our striker woes he would have played a lot more this season. And yes Austin is one of the league scorers but there are obvious flaws in his game that need working on and until he resolves these issues he will not be a regular for a top 6 prem side. Thats why he wasnt called up for England



                              This 100%.

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                              • vblockranger
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 15218

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Hove Ranger
                                Taraabt does it on a regular basis. Dont see many teams queuing up for him. Not sure if nutmegging is something we should be basing players ability on

                                Looks good on FIFA though

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