Spot the difference...

[Hubble]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/15705034

Well, differences. Against a Pulis side. A team that showed real spirit. Traore with a great assist!

And compare the team with the £40 Million plus side we put out yesterday:

QPR
01 Kenny
03 Hill
06 Gabbidon
18 Young (Orr - 77' )
35 Ferdinand
11 Faurlin
13 Traore
17 Barton Booked
32 Wright-Phillips
12 Mackie
22 Helguson Booked

Substitutes
02 Orr
04 Derry
14 Buzsaky
21 Smith
30 Hewitt


Compared to:

Queens Park Rangers
01 Green
14 Isla Booked
22 Dunne
15 Onuoha
06 Hill (Yun Suk-young - 75' )
20 Henry (Zamora - 45' )
24 Vargas
08 Barton Booked
10 Fer
19 Kranjcar (Hoilett - 68' )
09 Austin

Substitutes
04 Caulker
07 Phillips
12 McCarthy
13 Yun Suk-young
23 Hoilett
25 Zamora
29 Zárate


If ever you wanted evidence we've gone backwards under TF (and Harry).

[Jeems]

Player for player better in every position yesterday. Just goes to show that team spirit + a sprinkle of quality > individual talent. HH leading the line, Faurlin in midfield and players like Tommy Smith coming off the bench. Good times indeed.

We had so much team spirit last season - just look at the play off semi when it went to extra time - what the hell happened?!

[QPR Richard]

Are you pinning the blame on the chairman instead of the coaches and players? We won the first one under TF, lost the second under TF. Interesting thought. Blame the office boy.

You can have a pop at the chairman for his selection of managers, but think the players and coaches are at fault.

[James1979]

If we want to get someone in until end of season, who will show some passion and should get most of fans behind us, we could get warnock back. Cherry on top being no more saggy chops

[superhoop67]

Are you pinning the blame on the chairman instead of the coaches and players? We won the first one under TF, lost the second under TF. Interesting thought. Blame the office boy.

You can have a pop at the chairman for his selection of managers, but think the players and coaches are at fault.

Can't see any one blaming the chairman ,you have to slow down defending TF in every thread

[QPR Richard]

Can't see any one blaming the chairman ,you have to slow down defending TF in every thread

Didn't the OP say we've gone backwards under TF? I don't blame him or the board. I blame Hughes and Redknapp, along with their players for what's gone on.

[Hubble]

Didn't the OP say we've gone backwards under TF? I don't blame him or the board. I blame Hughes and Redknapp, along with their players for what's gone on.

Have we or have we not gone backwards under TF? Around what £60-£70 Million spent in transfer fees in total, huge debt, massive wage bill, an old-school manager who has failed to bring on any youth, has alienated players and given us the English record worst away form in the top flight, fans falling out with players, sitting in the bottom 3. Please explain how that's an improvement from where we were before TF got involved.

[rickyranger]

But who employed them both and is more interested in their media profile that what they actually deliver?

[rickyranger]

Have we or have we not gone backwards under TF? Around what £60-£70 Million spent i,n transfer fees in total, huge debt, massive wage bill, an old-school manager who has failed to bring on any youth, has alienated players and given us the English record worst away form in the top flight, fans falling out with players, sitting in the bottom 3. Please explain how that's an improvement from where we were before TF got involved.

Spot on

[West Acton]

Surely you need to put up Stoke sides for proper comparison

Plus give me yesterday's players but properly organised and with a proper game plan over the first lot

[superhoop67]

Surely you need to put up Stoke sides for proper comparison

Plus give me yesterday's players but properly organised and with a proper game plan over the first lot

it seems we employ coaches that can't coach very well ,and this has been apparent since Maclaren has left

[Hubble]

Surely you need to put up Stoke sides for proper comparison

Plus give me yesterday's players but properly organised and with a proper game plan over the first lot

Here you go then. And yes, you've underlined my point, with the players we've got now, we should be doing a lot better than that team from 2011. And how ironic to lose against a Hughes team.

Stoke

Then:

29 Sorensen
03 Higginbotham
04 Huth
17 Shawcross Booked
28 Wilkinson Booked
16 Pennant (Fuller - 68' Booked )
18 Whitehead (Whelan - 85' )
24 Delap Booked
26 Etherington
19 Walters
25 Crouch (Jones - 65' )

Substitutes
01 Begovic
20 Upson
06 Whelan
12 Wilson
40 Palacios
09 Jones
10 Fuller

Now:

Stoke City
01 Begovic
02 Bardsley
17 Shawcross (Muniesa - 42' )
26 Wollscheid
12 Wilson
15 N'Zonzi
06 Whelan
10 Arnautovic (Crouch - 63' )
07 Ireland (Adam - 72' )
13 Moses Booked
19 Walters Booked

Substitutes
05 Muniesa
16 Adam
18 Diouf
20 Cameron
21 Sidwell
22 Butland
25 Crouch

[Rich]

What's ironic is we have had wholesale changes apart from Barton and Stoke have half the same side.

[oldskoolturk]

And a further irony that based on current performance you could argue he's the sort of person we would want in to replace redknapp!

[kenthoop]

What's ironic is we have had wholesale changes apart from Barton and Stoke have half the same side.

Probably has something to do with getting relegated mate.