Spyin' Kop - QPR vs Liverpool Sun 19 Oct 2014 13:30

[Titi Camara]

Some big team from up North poached are young star player before we got to see him play in a hooped shirt THAT IS ALL !! Ps can we have Sterling back now

Maybe that's a question you could pose to the RAWK collective? Did we pay enough compensation for him? Should the rules on such "transfers" be reviewed by the FA? Are the current rules biased in favour of the more successful or more wealthy clubs? Do you think QPR will ever see that 20%? Is the clause real? etc

"Liverpool only paid QPR £600k for Sterling up front, but there were additional clauses—clauses it seems impossible won't eventually be triggered and some of which likely already have been—that could raise that fee to around £5M. Throw in a 20% sell-on fee, and QPR would stand to turn a solid profit on Sterling if such a sale ever came to pass."

[Brian Wilson]

1. Definitely more fun in the championship but we would go bust if we stayed there. The whole structure of the club would have to be changed if we want to settle for being a championship/league 1 club
2. Really too early to say. Caulker has probably looked the best of the new recruits so far (not saying much though). Should have held on to Danny Simpson and if not I don't get why we sent Jack Robinson straight out on loan.
3. They have backed every manager 100%. Cant complain.
4. Staying up. Not a good start.
5. Probably not, I really hope so but the performances this season dont suggest that. On the other hand I dont want Pulis or some other manager who wont be a step up. Would rather stick with Harry than do that.

Onto the actual match....
6.

4-3-1-2

Green

Onouha Caulker Ferdinand Traore

Barton Sandro Fer

Kranjcar

Austin Zamora

7. eh, probably Charlie Austin, Zamora will cause ye some problems if he starts same goes for Hoillett
8. Sturridge if he plays plus Sterling.
9. 0-2
10. 5th - 19th

[Robsondinho]

1. To say your last two seasons have been a roller coaster is somewhat of an understatement. Winning only 4 games all season combined with relegation in 12/13, flips to winning 50% of your games the following season and gaining promotion back to the premier league. Given you've seen both sides of the fence recently, is it more fun to be winning in the championship or be in the top tier?

Obviously nice to be winning games, but the Premiership is where you want to see your team, although competing in the premiership would be a lot better.

2. The team which gained promotion last year went through a major overhaul in the summer with well over a dozen players leaving and eight new faces coming in. We all know 'Arry loves a bargain but have any of the new faces proves to be value for money? Has he misjudged any of the departures and should you have hung onto one of two?

News signings haven't impressed me yet.

3. On the topic of transfers, you've spent around £50m net over the past two and a half years or around £10m per window. Not a great deal by modern standards but certainly not change you'll find down the back of the sofa either. What do you make of the owners backing of the manager in the transfer market?

Chairman is doing his bit giving the money, but the manager is spunking it on crap.

4. What were your aspirations going into this season and how are those aspirations matching up to the performances so far?

to compete between 11th and 15th - Not going to happen whilst Redknapp is in charge.

5. Simply put, is 'Arry the man to take you forward and will he be here come the final whistle, on the final day of the season?

No and hopefully not.

Onto the actual match....
6. What starting 11 do you expect to see against Liverpool and how will they be set up?

Redknapps mates playing.

7. Which players for your team do you think will cause us the most bother? Who should Liverpool supporters be looking out for on your team?

If he plays Taarabt is the only player we have that can cause problems through sheer ability (If he plays well) The others will not cause no problems to a team like yours.

8. Are there any current Liverpool players that worry you?

As a QPR fan, your whole squad. If I supported a top team 2 or 3.

9. Prediction for the match.

Liverpool 4-0

10. Predictions for both teams come end of the season.

5th Liverpool - 20th QPR (at the moment)

[Bluehoop]

It would be good to get your perspective on Jack Robinson. For example, do you think he will be good enough for the Conference as you may gather many here think that's where we are heading

[Titi Camara]

Cheers gents

[Titi Camara]

It would be good to get your perspective on Jack Robinson. For example, do you think he will be good enough for the Conference as you may gather may here think that's where we are heading

Will ask the question when I write this up.

It's a funny one though, why move permanently only to be shipped out on loan immediately? He could've secured a loan whilst still under contract with us. The fee we got for him certainly wouldn't have made the move happen above all other considerations.

[hal9thou]

I'm very keen of full employment for sexworkers, would you describe the scene in Liverpool as vibrant? ;)

I'm just thinking of post match entertainment re the return fixture.

[Titi Camara]

I'm very keen on full employment for sexworkers, would you describe the scene in Liverpool as vibrant? ;)

I think half the battle when seeking gainful employment is determination and that "can do attitude". I think if you show the right attitude and willingness, someone is bound to take you.

Good luck

[ArthurQPR_NYC]

"Liverpool only paid QPR £600k for Sterling up front, but there were additional clauses—clauses it seems impossible won't eventually be triggered and some of which likely already have been—that could raise that fee to around £5M. Throw in a 20% sell-on fee, and QPR would stand to turn a solid profit on Sterling if such a sale ever came to pass."

can you provide the source for this bit? weve got our own little sterling thread. havent really seen mention of the 20% sell on, just the clauses for appearances.

as for your bit
1. very close one for me, but I'd say staying prem. for our club to make steady improvement off the pitch as well as on it, we need to be consistent premier league. attracting fans, in london, in england, and around the world. the elements that bring you steady improvement (even if it is slow improvement) come much faster with premier league revenues, attention, fans, etc. on the pitch right now we are ########, and some think that the solution for that is to never want the prem again, but the analogy I would paint is like watching a single mother work 2 jobs to send her kids to a better uni for a better future.. its a hard to look at now, but she needs to be where she is for future growth.

2. IN - Yes and no, as always. Theres some very clear bad buys like Rio and Isla (so far). But some bright spots seem to be that Krancjar has worked hard to lose weight and run his socks off. Alex McCarthy looks one for the near future as well, just hope he plays.
OUT - Remy gone is a blow but we knew that was coming. I reckon Gary O'Neill could still do a job here. I like Ravel as well but that didnt look like it was in the cards. On a personal note, I'm still not happy we sent on youngster Tommy Hitchcock. Looked one to finally come thru for us in a long while.

3. Tony's backed qpr whenever we needed to spend. Thats not the issue. Now what is? ... take your pick of the guesses

4. Aspiration pre season: 17th. Honestly, if I was a robot I'd say we are on track for 17th.
But going home and away every week and seeing the attitude and work rate during the 90 mins, we are definitely on track for 19th (I still think Burnley are worse).

5. I've recently joined the Harry out camp, after going to upton park and seeing that dross. I was one of the very last on WATRB to support him I reckon. Now I really don't see him being the solution or the way forward.

I'd like to see someone else, but no one that I've heard Ive turned around and said.. Yup, 100%, he'll do a job.
Eddie Howe comes closest, but seeing the disparity between quality in the championship and what it takes in the premier league.... the gulf is so wide
idk if his sucess at Bournemouth would translate at premier league Loftus Rd.

Onto the actual match....
6. what I expect to see, and what I'd want to see are 2 very different things: i expect to see Arry not change much , even with Sir Les in.
I'd like to see: rio dropped, yun given a start or at least a sub on, never to see matty philips again, zamora to start.

7. niko will do a job. if barton is fit hopefully he'll be back to his usual hardworking self. (maybe his everton blue roots will spur him to captain us to 3 points). a few others are hit and miss.

8. all of them lol. sterling, sturridge if fit, balotelli, lallana, i mean ffs even henderson and gerrard. coutinho's faded a bit but on his day...
not scared of lambert tho. he doesnt look a threat at the moment. touch wood.

9. 3-1 liverpool (Barton to score)

10. Us 17th. You lot 6th

Topical edit:
11. Like Les. I think he will be a calm but knowledgable voice for his role: being a middleman between the coaching staff and the board, while adding some coaching words of wisdom to some of our players who could learn a thing or 2 from when Sir Les wore the hoops

[Titi Camara]

can you provide the source for this bit? weve got our own little sterling thread. havent really seen mention of the 20% sell on, just the clauses for appearances.

http://liverpooloffside.sbnation.com/liverpool-news-coverage/2014/6/19/5823806/raheem-sterling-20-sell-on-fee-qpr-transfer-600k-rising-5m

No idea if true as it's not from an actual direct quote but that's where I've picked it up from.

Cheers for the replies

[Titi Camara]

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=317152.0

Evening,

I've posted up your replies. If you want to read the responses you're very welcome.

Thanks again for taking the time

[Factamondo]

why do all scouse birds look like satsumas

[hal9thou]

why do all scouse birds look like satsumas

don't put me off (post 22).

Truth is I don't care. I'd happily peel one for christmas. ;)