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  • Nick
    Gold Seat
    • Oct 2013
    • 5593

    #31
    Originally posted by Hitman34
    furlian for mutch, hoilett for toare and fer in the hole
    or philips on the left and hoilett in the hole
    Green

    Caulker Ferdinand Ned

    Isla Barton Faurlin Phillips

    Hoilett

    Remy Austin/Vergas

    Yeah that'll do me... ease the newbies in
    SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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    • Geng
      Silver Seat
      • Jul 2009
      • 1449

      #32
      What's this obsession with Hoilett? He was poor almost all last season, terrible in our relegation season, and wasn't particularly impressive pre-season. Certainly don't see the need to drop both Mutch and Fer for him.

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      • Hitman34
        Platinum Seat
        • Jan 2012
        • 13959

        #33
        Originally posted by Nick
        Green

        Caulker Ferdinand Ned

        Isla Barton Faurlin Phillips

        Hoilett

        Remy Austin/Vergas

        Yeah that'll do me... ease the newbies in
        Yep, thats the one mate. 3pts in the bag with that team
        nsa/cia spy on this..............┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

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        • Nick
          Gold Seat
          • Oct 2013
          • 5593

          #34
          Originally posted by Geng
          What's this obsession with Hoilett? He was poor almost all last season, terrible in our relegation season, and wasn't particularly impressive pre-season. Certainly don't see the need to drop both Mutch and Fer for him.
          Play him in the hole behind the striker's, seems much more suited there in pre season than on the wing like he played in previous games..... also it's not so much dropping Mutch and Fer but get them up to shape/fitness, use them as subs. Like I said ease them in.
          SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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          • Geng
            Silver Seat
            • Jul 2009
            • 1449

            #35
            I worry Ned won't look much better than Dunne at LCB - we really need to sign a specialist for that position or maybe even play Hill. Otherwise every move to our left breaks down. Don't think people here have really grasped just how much more important CBs passing is when in a 3.

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            • Geng
              Silver Seat
              • Jul 2009
              • 1449

              #36
              Originally posted by Nick
              Play him in the hole behind the striker's, seems much more suited there in pre season than on the wing like he played in previous games..... also it's not so much dropping Mutch and Fer but get them up to shape/fitness, use them as subs. Like I said ease them in.
              Yeh agree with easing in Fer and Mutch, but not with Hoilett. I don't think changing his position will alter his play enough to warrant sticking him in the team - I saw him three times in pre-season and he still doesn't look like he's learned how to control the ball properly.

              You would expect a guy starting in the hole for a PL side to run rings around Irish pub players, but Athlone honestly had a couple players with better touch than Hoilett.

              I'll obviously cheer him on if he does get back in the side, but I'm not at all positive.

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              • West Acton
                CCG
                • Dec 2009
                • 21475

                #37
                Originally posted by Geng
                What's this obsession with Hoilett? He was poor almost all last season, terrible in our relegation season, and wasn't particularly impressive pre-season. Certainly don't see the need to drop both Mutch and Fer for him.
                The irony Geng

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                • Nick
                  Gold Seat
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 5593

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Geng
                  I worry Ned won't look much better than Dunne at LCB - we really need to sign a specialist for that position or maybe even play Hill. Otherwise every move to our left breaks down. Don't think people here have really grasped just how much more important CBs passing is when in a 3.
                  1 things for absolutely certain their 1st goal would not have happened had Ned been playing - not saying we wouldn't of got a thumping but that particular goal highlights why Ned needs to play against certain teams (teams that'll come at us fast)... games like the Hull game are fine for Dunne, he looked fine and done nothing wrong but the top teams IMO Ned is a must to start.
                  SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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                  • Geng
                    Silver Seat
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 1449

                    #39
                    Originally posted by West Acton
                    The irony Geng
                    The eyesight, you mean? If you're referring to my views on you-know-who:


                    Hoilett, 2013/14, playing for one of the top sides in the Championship:

                    26 starts, 12 subs

                    4 goals, 5 assists

                    1.2 chances created per game, 2.5 dribbles

                    Dispossessed 2.5 times per game, 1.7 turnovers

                    Passing success 80.5%

                    Taarabt, 2012/13, playing for one of the worst sides in the Premier League

                    25 starts, 6 subs

                    5 goals, 4 assists

                    2.5 chances created, 2.7 dribs

                    Dispossessed 1.7; turnovers 2.2

                    Passing 81.5%

                    So, broadly similar stats. Adel's slightly better. My views aren't just pulled out my Rs!

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                    • Geng
                      Silver Seat
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 1449

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nick
                      1 things for absolutely certain their 1st goal would not have happened had Ned been playing - not saying we wouldn't of got a thumping but that particular goal highlights why Ned needs to play against certain teams (teams that'll come at us fast)... games like the Hull game are fine for Dunne, he looked fine and done nothing wrong but the top teams IMO Ned is a must to start.
                      Yeah Ned is clearly one of our top 3 CBs. I just worry that in a Ned / Caulker/ Rio backline whoever plays LCB will be a weak link as they'll not be able to build moves down that side and will keep having to cut back inside or hoof it into the channels.

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                      • Nick
                        Gold Seat
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 5593

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Geng
                        Yeah Ned is clearly one of our top 3 CBs. I just worry that in a Ned / Caulker/ Rio backline whoever plays LCB will be a weak link as they'll not be able to build moves down that side and will keep having to cut back inside or hoof it into the channels.
                        I honestly feel our back 3 (Caulker, Rio and Ned) with Hill and Dunne as back are more than capable of handling the PL. I think our weak link is going to be the LWB (RWB we've got a proven player in that position, just takes time to adjust to our game/team) but the LWB we've got no one who's proven in that position... I like Yun, who just needs to prove himself at this level. But I really like Phillips, think he's got a great future but the only question mark is his defensive work.
                        SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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                        • West Acton
                          CCG
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 21475

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Geng
                          The eyesight, you mean? If you're referring to my views on you-know-who:


                          Hoilett, 2013/14, playing for one of the top sides in the Championship:

                          26 starts, 12 subs

                          4 goals, 5 assists

                          1.2 chances created per game, 2.5 dribbles

                          Dispossessed 2.5 times per game, 1.7 turnovers

                          Passing success 80.5%

                          Taarabt, 2012/13, playing for one of the worst sides in the Premier League

                          25 starts, 6 subs

                          5 goals, 4 assists

                          2.5 chances created, 2.7 dribs

                          Dispossessed 1.7; turnovers 2.2

                          Passing 81.5%

                          So, broadly similar stats. Adel's slightly better. My views aren't just pulled out my Rs!
                          we say no more on the subject mate

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                          • West Acton
                            CCG
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 21475

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Geng
                            Yeah Ned is clearly one of our top 3 CBs. I just worry that in a Ned / Caulker/ Rio backline whoever plays LCB will be a weak link as they'll not be able to build moves down that side and will keep having to cut back inside or hoof it into the channels.
                            Can't be worse then the current effort with Dunne mate

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                            • Burnside
                              Bronze Seat
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 895

                              #44
                              Put SWP in the hole and fill it full of cement.

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                              • QPR Richard
                                Gold Seat
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 6489

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Nick
                                Green

                                Caulker Ferdinand Ned

                                Isla Barton Faurlin Phillips

                                Hoilett

                                Remy Austin/Vergas

                                Yeah that'll do me... ease the newbies in
                                Phillips, a right winger, to play LWB ? Disagree with that mate.
                                Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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