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  • MYU
    Administrator
    • Mar 2009
    • 43466

    #16
    Originally posted by W12_Ranger
    It's hilarious these Mickey Mouse journalists haven't cottoned on to our transfer policy this season. We've already publicly stated we are not interested in Lampard, Ferdinand and Lescott and yet the penny hasn't dropped yet.
    It's okay... it gives us publicity.

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    • Hove Ranger
      Silver Seat
      • Aug 2011
      • 4441

      #17
      Originally posted by bakes8
      How's that then? I wouldn't have Johnson over Simpson. Blokes a complete liability in defence and always has been. Why he gets in ahead of Kyle Walker in the England team god only knows. Other than pace I see nothing that GJ has in his game that's better than DS.
      And this statement is based on watching simpson for 1 season in the championship? Because Newcastle deemed him not up to it when they released him. Not that I'm massively against Simpson but there were definitely times he was found wanting defensively, at fault for some crucial goals (i.e. wigan playoff goal). In terms of going forward, Johnson is levels above simpson...... Anyways, Johnson wont be signing for us, he is looking forward to a world cup and champions league next season

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      • Del
        Gold Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 8393

        #18
        Originally posted by Hove Ranger
        And this statement is based on watching simpson for 1 season in the championship? Because Newcastle deemed him not up to it when they released him. Not that I'm massively against Simpson but there were definitely times he was found wanting defensively, at fault for some crucial goals (i.e. wigan playoff goal). In terms of going forward, Johnson is levels above simpson...... Anyways, Johnson wont be signing for us, he is looking forward to a world cup and champions league next season
        How was Simpson at fault for Wigan's goal....???

        Clint Hill stationary with his arm up looking for offside while his player strolls past him into the 6 yard box for a tap in was at fault.

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        • Connell10
          Silver Seat
          • Mar 2011
          • 3468

          #19
          i think johnson is a shite defender but a very good winger! simpson is a good defender but a shite winger! as we are talking about a right back and the main duty of said right back is to defend , i think simpson pisses all over johnson in that department!
          LONDON CALLING TO THE ZOMBIES OF DEATH.... ALSO KNOW AS BRENTFORD FANS

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          • UpperP
            Silver Seat
            • Jul 2010
            • 1055

            #20
            Originally posted by Connell10
            i think johnson is a shite defender but a very good winger! simpson is a good defender but a shite winger! as we are talking about a right back and the main duty of said right back is to defend , i think simpson pisses all over johnson in that department!

            Johnson terrifies me when he plays for England. Always looks likely to make a rick. As you said much more comfortable going forward.

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            • maidstone_hoop
              Gold Seat
              • May 2009
              • 6718

              #21
              As said by a few rb is not a position we need to worry about. We have a premier quality player in that position already. Simpson is more than capable and can't believe people are questioning this.
              We can't replace or bring in players for every position and surly cb, cm, lw, rw, and st postions are our priorities. Players like green, Simpson, Onohua, Barton, phillips, Charlie can all make the step up and should be first 11. We need to find players to compliment them.

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              • Shepherds Mush
                Platinum Seat
                • Nov 2012
                • 10325

                #22
                Another donkey on ridiculous wages when we already have a steady RB and cover. Cannot wait to see the next player linked

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                • Ginger Ninja
                  W12 Seat
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 17458

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Del
                  How was Simpson at fault for Wigan's goal....???

                  Clint Hill stationary with his arm up looking for offside while his player strolls past him into the 6 yard box for a tap in was at fault.
                  Because he just stood there and gave Beusejour all the time in the world to pick out McClean. Then Onuoha wasn't quick enough closing McClean down, allowing him to get the cross in. And Dunne and Hill were static.
                  So you could argue that all 4 defenders were at fault. Simpson started it though.
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                  • Del
                    Gold Seat
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 8393

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Ginger Ninja
                    Because he just stood there and gave Beusejour all the time in the world to pick out McClean. Then Onuoha wasn't quick enough closing McClean down, allowing him to get the cross in. And Dunne and Hill were static.
                    So you could argue that all 4 defenders were at fault. Simpson started it though.
                    Ridiculous. He contained his man, preventing him from getting up the channel himself, who passed to someone else. He can't prevent all eventualities. Blimey, with that logic you could take any goal back to the first person who lost a ball. Similiar with the partial blame labelled at Onouha harshly because he didnt get close enough to McClean before he crossed, but the fact McClean cross instantly meant he couldn't. The only alternative would've been to initially follow him into that area, and if he did he'd have left a gaping chasm for any midfielders to run into in the heart of our defence. It's about playing percentages and minimising risk as it's seen.

                    The only person anyone should catagorically blame for that goal is Hill, yet some can't hear a negative word about him. The fact is, ALL HE HAD TO DO was mark and contain his player, which he didn't. He pointlessly stood with an arm up trying to get an offside that wasnt even close and took his eye off his man who easilly got in front of him in our 6 yard box for a tap in. That was shocking.

                    To suggest it's Simpson's fault, or Onouha's or anyone else's other than Hill is ludicrous. Yes they could have done things differently, which could've caused other risks, but he could've and should've prevented the goal.
                    Last edited by Del; 02-06-2014, 10:36 AM.

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                    • bakes8
                      Silver Seat
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 4561

                      #25
                      Originally posted by maidstone_hoop
                      As said by a few rb is not a position we need to worry about. We have a premier quality player in that position already. Simpson is more than capable and can't believe people are questioning this.
                      We can't replace or bring in players for every position and surly cb, cm, lw, rw, and st postions are our priorities. Players like green, Simpson, Onohua, Barton, phillips, Charlie can all make the step up and should be first 11. We need to find players to compliment them.
                      100% bang on.

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                      • Ginger Ninja
                        W12 Seat
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 17458

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Del
                        Ridiculous. He contained his man, preventing him from getting up the channel himself, who passed to someone else. He can't prevent all eventualities. Blimey, with that logic you could take any goal back to the first person who lost a ball. Similiar with the partial blame labelled at Onouha harshly because he didnt get close enough to McClean before he crossed, but the fact McClean cross instantly meant he couldn't. The only alternative would've been to initially follow him into that area, and if he did he'd have left a gaping chasm for any midfielders to run into in the heart of our defence. It's about playing percentages and minimising risk as it's seen.

                        The only person anyone should catagorically blame for that goal is Hill, yet some can't hear a negative word about him. The fact is, ALL HE HAD TO DO was mark and contain his player, which he didn't. He pointlessly stood with an arm up trying to get an offside that wasnt even close and took his eye off his man who easilly got in front of him in our 6 yard box for a tap in. That was shocking.

                        To suggest it's Simpson's fault, or Onouha's or anyone else's other than Hill is ludicrous. Yes they could have done things differently, which could've caused other risks, but he could've and should've prevented the goal.
                        Contained his man yes, but then should have closed him down. Perch wasn't hills man to mark, he was dunnes. We will have to agree to disagree on this one.
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                        • maidstone_hoop
                          Gold Seat
                          • May 2009
                          • 6718

                          #27
                          Players will make mistakes its only human. Austin missed a few he should of scored but we aint all on here saying he needs replacing. Its ridiculous to see people holding on to one off mistakes as a reason to replace someone. Look back at the season and simpson has been consistent along with 5 or 6 others we can depend on.
                          We need to keep some cohesion next year and danny also one of our younger players.

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                          • Del
                            Gold Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 8393

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Ginger Ninja
                            Contained his man yes, but then should have closed him down. Perch wasn't hills man to mark, he was dunnes. We will have to agree to disagree on this one.
                            Perch who scored, plays wide right / wing-back for Wigan and for the goal he ran from beyond Hill on the far post, got in front of him for a tap in...... Hill was the only QPR player within 10 yards of him, so at what point was he Dunne's man..???!

                            For what it's worth, Dunne was doing his job properly marking McManaman near the front post.

                            Perhaps we'll just agree you need to watch the goal again.

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                            • Hove Ranger
                              Silver Seat
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 4441

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Del
                              How was Simpson at fault for Wigan's goal....???

                              Clint Hill stationary with his arm up looking for offside while his player strolls past him into the 6 yard box for a tap in was at fault.
                              Because he stood there dangling his leg when he should have got his foot in, he even had a midfielder (barton i think) covering him, allowing him to make the challenge without the worry of the winger going past him. Full backs job is to stop the cross coming in or make it as hard as possible for the winger, neither of those were achieved

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                              • Ginger Ninja
                                W12 Seat
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 17458

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Del
                                Perch who scored, plays wide right / wing-back for Wigan and for the goal he ran from beyond Hill on the far post, got in front of him for a tap in...... Hill was the only QPR player within 10 yards of him, so at what point was he Dunne's man..???!

                                For what it's worth, Dunne was doing his job properly marking McManaman near the front post.

                                Perhaps we'll just agree you need to watch the goal again.
                                Looked at it again and it appears I got Dunne and Hill mixed up.
                                That doesnt take away the fact that Simpson should have put Beusejour under some sort of pressure.
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