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  • Stedders
    Silver Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 1148

    #16
    Watson and Buzsaky in middle - it's crying out for that. Put Rowly out wide.

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    • Bigdave
      Gold Seat
      • Apr 2009
      • 5109

      #17
      Leave it out Morris, Rowlands is twice the player Faullin or Legs is

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      • BennyBoyRs
        I like 'Lone' time
        • Mar 2009
        • 13695

        #18
        Originally posted by MorrisQPR
        You contradicted yourself there.

        Rowlands is the definition of a headless chicken and offers nothing to the team. Watson is a much improved version of Rowlands, and should be paired with either Buzsaky or Faurlin.
        Offers nothing to the team?

        For that reason, I'm going to find it hard to take anything you say seriously.
        Your mum would love me...

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        • Morris
          Gold Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 8965

          #19
          Originally posted by BennyBoyRs
          Offers nothing to the team?

          For that reason, I'm going to find it hard to take anything you say seriously.
          Tell me what he does offer the team then Bennyboy

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          • Morris
            Gold Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 8965

            #20
            Originally posted by Bigdave
            Leave it out Morris, Rowlands is twice the player Faullin or Legs is
            Legs - Yes.

            Faurlin - Not in a million years.

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            • Morris
              Gold Seat
              • Mar 2009
              • 8965

              #21
              Originally posted by Stedders
              Watson and Buzsaky in middle - it's crying out for that. Put Rowly out wide.
              Agree with the first half of that...

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              • BennyBoyRs
                I like 'Lone' time
                • Mar 2009
                • 13695

                #22
                Originally posted by MorrisQPR
                Tell me what he does offer the team then Bennyboy
                Leadership.
                Ball winner.
                5-10 goals a seaon.
                Cover at RB, CM or RM comfortably.
                Can take free kicks.
                Can take penalties.
                Tracks back.
                Gets forward.

                Not a lot really. I suppose he really is poor.
                Your mum would love me...

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                • Morris
                  Gold Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 8965

                  #23
                  Originally posted by BennyBoyRs
                  Leadership.
                  Ball winner.
                  5-10 goals a seaon.
                  Cover at RB, CM or RM comfortably.
                  Can take free kicks.
                  Tracks back.
                  Gets forward.

                  Not a lot really. I suppose he really is poor.
                  Leadership? No. Mahon is a far better captain that Rowlands, hes not overly vocal on the pitch.

                  Ball winner. Legs and Mahon are better ball winners.

                  Cover. Agreed, but he can be cover on the bench and come on if we get an injury.

                  5-10 goals a season. Most will be penaltys.

                  Free kicks. Not as well as Buzsaky

                  Tracks back and gets forward. So does Watson.

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                  • BennyBoyRs
                    I like 'Lone' time
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 13695

                    #24
                    Originally posted by MorrisQPR
                    Leadership? No. Mahon is a far better captain that Rowlands, hes not overly vocal on the pitch.

                    Ball winner. Legs and Mahon are better ball winners.

                    Cover. Agreed, but he can be cover on the bench and come on if we get an injury.

                    5-10 goals a season. Most will be penaltys.

                    Free kicks. Not as well as Buzsaky

                    Tracks back and gets forward. So does Watson.
                    Bulls**t does he not have ledership skills.
                    And no way is Mahon a better player that him, regardless. Mahon's only job as a defensive type player is to win balls, and that's where his ability stops.

                    So, you agree cover?
                    You agree he'll still get goals?
                    You agree he can still take free kicks, albeit not better than Buzz?
                    You agree he tracks back and gets forward?

                    And I'm the one contradicting myself?
                    I think you've just answered that he offers us more as an all-round midfielder that pretty much any one of our other players in that position. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that makes him our best CM, but it certainly makes him our more versatile useful ones.
                    Your mum would love me...

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                    • waggadaddy
                      Apprentice
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 136

                      #25
                      Is this Morris guy for real? maybe we all don't overate Rowlands? Could it be that you underate him?

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                      • Bigdave
                        Gold Seat
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 5109

                        #26
                        Originally posted by MorrisQPR
                        Leadership? No. Mahon is a far better captain that Rowlands, hes not overly vocal on the pitch.

                        Ball winner. Legs and Mahon are better ball winners.

                        Cover. Agreed, but he can be cover on the bench and come on if we get an injury.

                        5-10 goals a season. Most will be penaltys.

                        Free kicks. Not as well as Buzsaky

                        Tracks back and gets forward. So does Watson.
                        So judging by your comments there Rowlands scores goals, albiet most are pens, He isnt as good as buz at fre kicks, but then who is? He tracks back and can cover many positoions but you still dont rate him, christ who do you want, Steven Gerrard. Come on Morris we are QPR not Liverpool. Rowlands would get into most Championship sides and unlike Legs gives 100% EVERY week

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                        • sirpiechucker
                          Gold Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 5079

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MorrisQPR
                          Too similar IMO.

                          Just like Legs and Mahon.


                          Watson Faurlin, would be my choice.
                          Are Palacios and Huddlestone too similar or Mikel and Essien to similar? Weren't Alonso and Mascareno too similar. How about Fletcher and Carrick or even Barry and Lampard? Xavi and Toure?

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                          • BennyBoyRs
                            I like 'Lone' time
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 13695

                            #28
                            Oh and you can add influential to Rowlands attributes. Influence is vital to keep a team ticking, and since his arrival at the club, he's always been one of our more influential players.
                            Your mum would love me...

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                            • Morris
                              Gold Seat
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 8965

                              #29
                              Originally posted by BennyBoyRs
                              Bulls**t does he not have ledership skills.
                              And no way is Mahon a better player that him, regardless. Mahon's only job as a defensive type player is to win balls, and that's where his ability stops.

                              So, you agree cover?
                              You agree he'll still get goals?
                              You agree he can still take free kicks, albeit not better than Buzz?
                              You agree he tracks back and gets forward?

                              And I'm the one contradicting myself?
                              I think you've just answered that he offers us more as an all-round midfielder that pretty much any one of our other players in that position. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that makes him our best CM, but it certainly makes him our more versatile useful ones.
                              Most players can score penaltys mate so dont use that one.
                              Yes hes good cover for CM/RM and RB. Doesnt mean he should start.

                              Look, I dont want to sound like im having a go at Rowlands for the sake of it, I respect him for what hes done for the club and he has been a vital player for us. However we are trying to move up a level and IMO Rowlands doesnt have what it takes to help get us there. We have better options in the center of the park and Rowlands should be used as backup to injuries and suspensions.

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                              • Morris
                                Gold Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 8965

                                #30
                                Originally posted by sirpiechucker
                                Are Palacios and Huddlestone too similar or Mikel and Essien to similar? Weren't Alonso and Mascareno too similar. How about Fletcher and Carrick or even Barry and Lampard? Xavi and Toure?
                                Mikel and Essien play in a 5 man midfield. Mikel sits deep.

                                As did Alsonso and Masherano. Masherano sits deep

                                As do Xavi and Toure. Toure sits deep.

                                Were playing 442 tonight apparently.

                                Weve seen before at QPR that certain combo's dont work. Legs and Mahon for example.

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