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  • Stanley
    Guest
    • Mar 2009
    • 23693

    #1

    IF Taarabt leaves...

    ...do we need to sign a playmaker...to feed Hooper/Remy/Austin or whichever strikeforce we finally end up with?
  • Mem
    Referee
    • Aug 2009
    • 2376

    #2
    Hoilett, Johnson, jenas, wright Phillips, Faurlin should all be good enough - the trouble at times last season was that taarabt tried to do it all himself

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    • Stanley
      Guest
      • Mar 2009
      • 23693

      #3
      Originally posted by Mem
      Hoilett, Johnson, jenas, wright Phillips, Faurlin should all be good enough - the trouble at times last season was that taarabt tried to do it all himself
      I mean a CM playmaker really. Hoilett and SWP are wingers; Johnson a striker.

      Would you class Jenas and Faurlin as playmakers?

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      • Mem
        Referee
        • Aug 2009
        • 2376

        #4
        Originally posted by Stanley76
        I mean a CM playmaker really. Hoilett and SWP are wingers; Johnson a striker.

        Would you class Jenas and Faurlin as playmakers?
        I see your point - I would like to believe that they both are although I would imagine only one of them would start with the other being Derry or Henry

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        • essex
          Bronze Seat
          • May 2011
          • 755

          #5
          Palymaker is a very broad term. Faurlin is probably a better playmaker than Adel, if you watch the way he plays, he converts possession in defence into attach. But doing this means he plays deep to take the ball off the CB's. Taraabt has got the skill to be a playmaker but is far too selfish to be considered one IMHO.

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          • Semisonic
            Apprentice
            • Jul 2013
            • 5

            #6
            Out of interest, what team is likely to be your first eleven next season. Can see the back four, the wingers and midfield combo pick itself but would Redknapp play 4-4-2 or play 4-2-3-1. For all his critics could someone like Granero or Park play the role Taarabt does, albeit, in a different way?

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            • Ginger Ninja
              W12 Seat
              • Jan 2010
              • 17458

              #7
              Originally posted by Stanley76
              I mean a CM playmaker really. Hoilett and SWP are wingers; Johnson a striker.

              Would you class Jenas and Faurlin as playmakers?
              perhaps not jenas, definitely faurlin though. jenas is more of a box to box man.
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              • Stanley
                Guest
                • Mar 2009
                • 23693

                #8
                Originally posted by essex
                Palymaker is a very broad term. Faurlin is probably a better playmaker than Adel, if you watch the way he plays, he converts possession in defence into attach. But doing this means he plays deep to take the ball off the CB's. Taraabt has got the skill to be a playmaker but is far too selfish to be considered one IMHO.
                I see what you mean. When we went up as champs Adel played a lot more offensively and ended up top goalscorer. Warnock even banned anyone from passing it to him in our half; but he wasn't an out and out striker either.

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                • maverick69
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 2029

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Stanley76
                  I mean a CM playmaker really. Hoilett and SWP are wingers; Johnson a striker.

                  Would you class Jenas and Faurlin as playmakers?
                  I would argue that Faurlin was our playmaker in our promotion year.

                  Adel kinda hung out on left wing-ish area where he would regularly get marked by a couple of players allowing the engine room of Derry and Ale to distribute it to the likes of Routs..... who would send it in to Heider..... who was as a result normally unmarked.

                  Of course, the cause and effect of this was that the opposing team would often have to tighten on Routs..... which would give Adel space..... etc.... etc.....

                  So I guess my point is: will we have someone with that X-factor who takes up the resources of the other team? Townsend would be my hope if Adel goes.

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                  • Ginger Ninja
                    W12 Seat
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 17458

                    #10
                    Originally posted by maverick69
                    I would argue that Faurlin was our playmaker in our promotion year.

                    Adel kinda hung out on left wing-ish area where he would regularly get marked by a couple of players allowing the engine room of Derry and Ale to distribute it to the likes of Routs..... who would send it in to Heider..... who was as a result normally unmarked.

                    Of course, the cause and effect of this was that the opposing team would often have to tighten on Routs..... which would give Adel space..... etc.... etc.....

                    So I guess my point is: will we have someone with that X-factor who takes up the resources of the other team? Townsend would be my hope if Adel goes.
                    hmm...not sure about that mate. didn't adel have the highest number of assists in the squad?
                    faurlin has definitely been a better playmaker in our last 2 seasons (well, 1 and a half), but i disagree about the promotion season.
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                    • dogsrrs
                      Gold Seat
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 6671

                      #11
                      I think it' not going to be easy to get shot of him we might end up offering him a free , I cant see a club big enough to fill his ego coming in for him and the level of clubs willing to take a punt on him unlikely to afford a descent fee for him , H just wants the smell of him out
                      Last edited by dogsrrs; 24-07-2013, 04:08 PM.

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                      • MattyRangers
                        Slimmer of The Year
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 24914

                        #12
                        We will need somebody to step up and give us a creative spark, yes. I think Ale is superb at what he does (breaking up play and keeping possession) but I don't think he has that killer pass in his locker often enough.
                        Tarbs, in the Championship, has the ability to unlock defences at will - something we need. With the possibility of having Hooper & Remy up top, we could get hatfuls of goals.
                        Without Tarbs, I think our only current player that could create a fair few chances is Hoilett. As I've said before (that makes me sound right full of me pi$$ and importance don't it :sorry, we all know he was pretty $hite last season, as was near on every player in our squad, but when we cast our mind back to the excitement around his signing, and imagein him in the Championship, if he can get himself together then we could have a hell of a player on our hands.
                        You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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                        • Stanley
                          Guest
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 23693

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Semisonic
                          Out of interest, what team is likely to be your first eleven next season. Can see the back four, the wingers and midfield combo pick itself but would Redknapp play 4-4-2 or play 4-2-3-1. For all his critics could someone like Granero or Park play the role Taarabt does, albeit, in a different way?
                          As things stand:

                          Green

                          Simpson...Dunne...Onuoha/Hill...Yun/Traore

                          SWP...Faurlin/Granero/Jenas...Henry/Derry...Hoillet

                          (then any of) Hooper/Austin/Remy/Johnson/Zamora

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                          • maverick69
                            Silver Seat
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 2029

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ginger Ninja
                            hmm...not sure about that mate. didn't adel have the highest number of assists in the squad?
                            faurlin has definitely been a better playmaker in our last 2 seasons (well, 1 and a half), but i disagree about the promotion season.
                            Statistically in terms of goal assists he did. And he was very effective. But IMO the actual build-up play being made was a function of the guys he was taking out of the game - leaving Ale to spray it about whilst Derry kneecapped the opposing midfield.

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                            • LoftusRoadLad
                              W12 Seat
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 19596

                              #15
                              AND if he dont leave ? Would we have him in our team ? I think yes cos if we get to our winning ways its gonna breed a happy team including Adel who loves being a winner. Agree ?

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