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  • Lord Charles
    Bronze Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 655

    #16
    User accounts bit different to a section for a particular nationality
    Yeah, but wouldn't it be fun!

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    • Joon
      Bronze Seat
      • Jul 2012
      • 425

      #17
      Originally posted by NortholtRanger
      2 out of 4

      He was in the team that got slaughtered by MK Dons, once he came off we grabbed a few goals so that sort of argument can go both ways.
      Actually, I've seen you mention that Park played in 2 of the 4 league games won, but I vaguely remembered it to be 3 out of 4.

      Just checked, and indeed Park started in the 3 games won against West Brom, Southampton and Sunderland. He was out due to injury in the game won against Fulham in December. That tips the scale, doesn't it?

      The season is over for us, but I thought we should set the record straight on this since Park has taken so much criticism, when in reality he contributed to 3 of our 4 wins. Sigh. 4 wins.
      Last edited by Joon; 29-04-2013, 01:10 AM.

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      • Norths
        CCG
        • Jan 2011
        • 13067

        #18
        We beat West Brom in the league did we?

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        • Joon
          Bronze Seat
          • Jul 2012
          • 425

          #19
          Originally posted by NortholtRanger
          We beat West Brom in the league did we?
          My bad, the win against West Brom was a cup game, the league win was against Chelsea. *taps head*

          Park did play against Chelsea but only for a few minutes at the end because he was not fully recovered from his injury. So the stat of having played in 3 of 4 league games won remains valid, but not as definitively as I thought.

          However, since we have stumbled onto cup games won, I just looked up how many cup games we won this season, and it turns out we only won two: one against West Brom, the other against Walsall. Park started in both of those games.

          Unless I missed another game somewhere, that brings our total wins including league and cups to 6 wins. Of those 6 games won, Park played in 5 (started in 4).
          Last edited by Joon; 29-04-2013, 08:19 AM.

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          • Norths
            CCG
            • Jan 2011
            • 13067

            #20
            Originally posted by Joon
            My bad, the win against West Brom was a cup game, the league win was against Chelsea. *taps head*

            Park did play against Chelsea but only for a few minutes at the end because he was not fully recovered from his injury. So the stat of having played in 3 of 4 league games won remains valid, but not as definitively as I thought.

            However, since we have stumbled onto cup games won, I just looked up how many cup games we won this season, and it turns out we only won two: one against West Brom, the other against Walsall. Park started in both of those games.

            Unless I missed another game somewhere, that brings our total wins including league and cups to 6 wins. Of those 6 games won, Park played in 5 (started in 4).


            Park can get no credit for the win against chelsea in which he played a few minutes.

            With regards to the cup games, he started and he was shocking in our embarrassing defeat to MK Dons so works both ways
            Last edited by Norths; 29-04-2013, 08:31 AM.

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            • vblockranger
              • Mar 2009
              • 15218

              #21
              Originally posted by Joon
              My bad, the win against West Brom was a cup game, the league win was against Chelsea. *taps head*

              Park did play against Chelsea but only for a few minutes at the end because he was not fully recovered from his injury. So the stat of having played in 3 of 4 league games won remains valid, but not as definitively as I thought.

              However, since we have stumbled onto cup games won, I just looked up how many cup games we won this season, and it turns out we only won two: one against West Brom, the other against Walsall. Park started in both of those games.

              Unless I missed another game somewhere, that brings our total wins including league and cups to 6 wins. Of those 6 games won, Park played in 5 (started in 4).
              Lol yer he was unlucky that he didnt pick up the PFA Player Of The Season award
              Maybe he will make it into the Premier League Team Of The Season?

              Park is rubbish and hasnt even been able to get a game in our woeful side lately, 18 total league appearances and i cant think of one where he wasnt Sh1t and didnt constantly fall over and jump out of tackles. Park is finished as a premiership player (not that he was much good even in his prime).
              Maybe if they do a Premier League benchwarming team of the season he might have a chance to get on it...although i doubt it.

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              • Joon
                Bronze Seat
                • Jul 2012
                • 425

                #22
                Originally posted by NortholtRanger

                Park can get no credit for the win against chelsea in which he played a few minutes.

                With regards to the cup games, he started and he was shocking in our embarrassing defeat to MK Dons so works both ways
                Well, he did play a couple of minutes during which a goal was not conceded at the last minute (in contrast to a more recent game) and it's officially listed as a game played, so let's give him credit for having played 2% of that game. That would still tip the scale in his favor by a tiny little bit above 50% when considering only league games won.

                As for cup games, we should stick to discussing wins and not losses, because if we were to try to discuss losses... I don't think that would be productive since 100% of our players have played in many, many losing matches throughout the season. Pretty much our entire team played horribly in the MK Dons game, Park included.

                Now, back to the total games won. Even when deducting most of the Chelsea game from Park's stats, he still started in 4 games out of 6 total wins. That's about 67%. Considering that Park played only about half the games in the season, a truly neutral stat would have been 25% (half of 50%).

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                • vblockranger
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 15218

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Joon
                  Well, he did play a couple of minutes during which a goal was not conceded at the last minute (in contrast to a more recent game) and it's officially listed as a game played, so let's give him credit for having played 2% of that game. That would still tip the scale in his favor by a tiny little bit above 50% when considering only league games won.

                  As for cup games, we should stick to discussing wins and not losses, because if we were to try to discuss losses... I don't think that would be productive since 100% of our players have played in many, many losing matches throughout the season. Pretty much our entire team played horribly in the MK Dons game, Park included.

                  Now, back to the total games won. Even when deducting most of the Chelsea game from Park's stats, he still started in 4 games out of 6 total wins. That's about 67%. Considering that Park played only about half the games in the season, a truly neutral stat would have been 25% (half of 50%).


                  You might have to take his posters down off your wall

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                  • Joon
                    Bronze Seat
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 425

                    #24
                    Originally posted by vblockranger
                    Lol yer he was unlucky that he didnt pick up the PFA Player Of The Season award
                    Maybe he will make it into the Premier League Team Of The Season?

                    Park is rubbish and hasnt even been able to get a game in our woeful side lately, 18 total league appearances and i cant think of one where he wasnt Sh1t and didnt constantly fall over and jump out of tackles. Park is finished as a premiership player (not that he was much good even in his prime).
                    Maybe if they do a Premier League benchwarming team of the season he might have a chance to get on it...although i doubt it.
                    vblock, learn to read, learn to count, learn to think, receive some much-needed psychiatric therapy and medication, and then maybe we'll have an actual discussion.

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                    • Kirill
                      W12 Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 19359

                      #25
                      Boys...
                      Banning people is no longer my hobby,
                      but take a look at my photo blog:

                      http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

                      How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
                      http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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                      • Yousef
                        Gold Seat
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 9553

                        #26
                        I think this thread just needs to be closed!
                        QPR fan since1987

                        @yousef_qpr

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                        • vblockranger
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 15218

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Joon
                          vblock, learn to read, learn to count, learn to think, receive some much-needed psychiatric therapy and medication, and then maybe we'll have an actual discussion.
                          It is impossible to discuss Park with you because you wont accept how poor he has been. You make up hilarious excuses about why actually he has been good. Set up a poll for QPR fans to vote on whether they think Park has been any good....go on give it a go
                          Mind you all the PArk fanboys will come out of the closet and vote that Park has been amazing all season as well so i suppose that wont work either.He has even had MOTM votes this season
                          Last edited by vblockranger; 29-04-2013, 09:29 AM.

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                          • Joon
                            Bronze Seat
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 425

                            #28
                            I was having a decent enough discussion with Northolt. With you, I know that is not possible. /Leaves thread.

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                            • vblockranger
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 15218

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Joon
                              I was having a decent enough discussion with Northolt. With you, I know that is not possible. /Leaves thread.
                              /says bye

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                              • Kirill
                                W12 Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 19359

                                #30
                                /facepalms
                                Banning people is no longer my hobby,
                                but take a look at my photo blog:

                                http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

                                How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
                                http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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