Holloway Out

[Shania]

Whats utter nonsense you muppet?! Its obviously exactly whats happened like it or not, be it professional or not its whats obviously happened! A ridiculas 8 games left to get a win or 4 points and had beat rotherham 5-1 playing not very well but obviously cockyness xrept in thinking it was allover season wise! Obviously everyones miffed and baffled how it could happen but its happened!

On the hole, Smithies has kept us, the players, and Ollie in it. That`s the truth,imo. Personally, i hope he will bring us at least a point against Forest..

[Pinkie]

What utter nonsense!
With 8 games and 24 points left to play for Ollie should not just switch off or allow the players to. That is totally unprofessional and exactly what those with a losing mediocre mentality do.

Whats utter nonsense you muppet?! Its obviously exactly whats happened like it or not, be it professional or not its whats obviously happened! A ridiculas 8 games left to get a win or 4 points and had beat rotherham 5-1 playing not very well but obviously cockyness xrept in thinking it was allover season wise! Obviously everyones miffed and baffled how it could happen but its happened!

[Shania]

He will hopefully be shown the door at the end of this season.

[MYU]

If he's here next season and loses the first six, I can't see anyone wanting to stick with him. I think it's a massive risk keeping him because the new manager won't have had a pre-season, the transfer window will be closed, and we'll probably waste another season.

And will any new man worth his salt work under Les? Doubtful. It's probably why we won't ever get a good manager in while we have a DoF.

I think it's time to have a compete clear out next month.

If he lost the first six, he'd leave the club no choice.

[Shania]

At his standard they all get about the same. Its an open book and they all know what to ask for.
He was hired to bring back club unity not to save money imo.

Yepp, I remember they said so!

[QPR Richard]

If he's here next season and loses the first six, I can't see anyone wanting to stick with him. I think it's a massive risk keeping him because the new manager won't have had a pre-season, the transfer window will be closed, and we'll probably waste another season.

And will any new man worth his salt work under Les? Doubtful. It's probably why we won't ever get a good manager in while we have a DoF.

I think it's time to have a compete clear out next month.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Is Ollie a well paid manager? I wonder because he could have been appointed because he was a cheap option.

At his standard they all get about the same. Its an open book and they all know what to ask for.
He was hired to bring back club unity not to save money imo.

[Shania]

Is Ollie a well paid manager? I wonder because he could have been appointed because he was a cheap option.

[Kevin Mcleod]

No fox i must admit, i do think holloway was definitley a twitter appointment.
All we can do is hope and pray hes still got one more promotion in him and next year will be a swashbuckling one.

[FurtiveFox]

Not bothered at all that we are lower in the league than when TF started, i havent got any monetary shares in the club. Its not a business to me its a hobby, a pleasure. League status is just a state of mind to me, doesnt affect my life.
Obviously id love us to be a stable prem side but im still happy with the play off final and the few years we had in the premiership.
Still got every belief the chairman and his benevolent funding will take us back there.

Tend to agree but just such a shame the most recent managerial appointment has been such a predictable fark up. Will be stuck with Ollie next year which will mean another disappointing and wasted season at a time where I feel our squad is only a few players away from being decent and it has been a while since I felt that. Can see a few leaving in the summer as well given current manager.

Gotta love Ollie in a way but I so wish he had not been brought back. No idea what the club was thinking.

[Kevin Mcleod]

But the fact is six years later we're below where we were when he started. That might just be acceptable if he'd spent zilch, but in fact eyewatering amounts have gone in and we're stllshite. The liability may not be the club's but the credibility of anyone who can pissthat lot up the wall only to find himself further down the table must be in question.



TF / board have the final say.



Correct. And if you watch that Rotherham game back you'll see how poor we were for long stretches, the writing was on the wall. They were absoluetly shambolic. Never mind formations and experiments, we are not covering the basics as previously stated and that really does bother me.



Also correct. Rose tints obscure the reality of what actually happened. This was another fvcked appointment sadly. I don't think we'll go down, but we'll still be stuck with comedians in the boardroom and the dugout.

Not bothered at all that we are lower in the league than when TF started, i havent got any monetary shares in the club. Its not a business to me its a hobby, a pleasure. League status is just a state of mind to me, doesnt affect my life.
Obviously id love us to be a stable prem side but im still really happy with the play off final and the few years we had in the premiership.
Still got every belief the chairman and his benevolent funding will take us back there, so cant find it in my heart to call him names as im still very grateful, and in my half a century of supporting rangers, his tenure has been the best by far for me.

[James1979]

His credibility may have gone down but think we can live with that. His employees should take the blame more though.

[hal9thou]

We've been very lucky in my view to have the owner that we do.

But the fact is six years later we're below where we were when he started. That might just be acceptable if he'd spent zilch, but in fact eyewatering amounts have gone in and we're stllshite. The liability may not be the club's but the credibility of anyone who can pissthat lot up the wall only to find himself further down the table must be in question.

Yeah I agree on staff but you mean from CEO (hoos) down to coaching staff. It's fernandes who hires the CEO and DoF I think. Others will be hired by DoF and manager etc. Cutting costs is pretty easy but picking right staff to take us forward that is difficult. That's why whilst some put hoos and Les as the dream team, I think they are bang average.

TF / board have the final say.

What utter nonsense!
With 8 games and 24 points left to play for Ollie should not just switch off or allow the players to. That is totally unprofessional and exactly what those with a losing mediocre mentality do.

Correct. And if you watch that Rotherham game back you'll see how poor we were for long stretches, the writing was on the wall. They were absoluetly shambolic. Never mind formations and experiments, we are not covering the basics as previously stated and that really does bother me.

just like the end of his reign I remember Leeds away. 6 debuts all loans bignot in midfield polish fella at rb Langley out wide , and remember this is a man who went touting for Leicester and wolves job when he knew he been worked out .

Also correct. Rose tints obscure the reality of what actually happened. This was another fvcked appointment sadly. I don't think we'll go down, but we'll still be stuck with comedians in the boardroom and the dugout.

[Stanley]

Do you consider our current chairman to be the "strong" type Stan?

Hits, I don't think he's been ruthless enough when he's needed to be in the past in regard to allowing agents and fans to over-influence his decisions. Whether or not he's learn't from his mistakes thus far very much remains to be seen. As far as I'm concerned the jury is very much out on TF as far as his running of the club since he took over 6 years ago, by simple virtue of the fact that we've made no progress in all that time. It's all very well being a nice guy, listening to the fans and having the club's best interests at heart but that all amounts to nothing if you're not doing due diligence on who you appoint to advise you and who you appoint to run and manage the club.

[Kit]

It would take a brave man to not make any changes, if we end up with 7 or 8 defeats on the spin, which is a very real possibility as Forest have beaten Reading and Brighton in recent weeks, so they are not the side from earlier this season. I still honestly don't think we will get relegated as I don't believe Blackburn will win both their games but we really shouldn't have given them a scooby of a chance in the first place.